Re-Hire Berhalter

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Hamburgler03, Oct 10, 2022.

  1. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Figure he's going to have some time on his hands by early December. Experienced coach. Has a plan. Knows Columbus. Seems like the perfect fit.
     
  2. MFRONE

    MFRONE Member+

    Jul 24, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Columbus Crew
    Anybody who employs a system that starts by going through the back line should be automatically disqualified for this job.
     
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  3. ColumbusFTW

    ColumbusFTW Member+

    Jul 18, 2018
    Big facts here
     
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  4. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
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    United States
    Never said it was a good system. But it's a system. And I guess if you have defenders who can handle the ball, it's not bad.
     
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  5. jairadballerina

    jairadballerina Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    C-Town
    Careful - Andrulis's system was boot the ball up the field past the midfield and try to win the 50/50 ball up top. There was much criticism at the time as it being thoughtless and not creative.
     
  6. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
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    #6 TKyle, Oct 10, 2022
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2022
    Yeah, no for me.

    The big worry I have is: the US goes three-and-out, Ggggg is fired, and then Porter gets the USMNT job. [emoji33]

    Earnie Stewart and others at Soccer House have to be smart enough not to hire Porter, also considering his Olympic failure with the U23's.
     
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  7. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
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    Gross. Mods, please remove this thread and red card anybody who agrees with this idea.
     
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  8. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    No.

    Courtois should be given a legit interview.
     
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  9. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    He should at least get an interview (Courtois. Gregggg too once he gets fired).
     
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  10. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The thing is I can't tell if Hamburgler is taking the piss or if he's for real.
     
  11. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
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    United States
    the best takes are when this is the case.
     
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  12. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Absolutely not. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
     
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  13. TomB

    TomB Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Columbus, Ohio USA
    No.
     
  14. David Kerr

    David Kerr Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is basically every coach now. Very, very few coaches at the top level now will default to kickball as their primary style of play. Even high pressing systems like Red Bulls still prefer to build out of the back. It isn’t high school soccer, every team will play out of the back and every player has to be proficient on the ball. Even at the academy levels around the world very few coaches use a style of play that doesn’t build out with the back line. It is nonsense to use this as a factor against a coach
     
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  15. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    I want a coach that ISN'T married to a "system".

    Coaching should be playing to the strengths of the players on your roster. Santos, Lucas, Cucho, Morris, even Artur, should not be playing a system designed to slow play down every time we gain possession.

    Why do Americans think the game needs to be regimented, to have a "system"? The game is one of creative beauty, to have a structure in formation but to let the players dictate the actual play.
     
  16. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Without a system, it looks like a U-8 game where everyone is running to the ball, which is how the current team has looked.
     
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  17. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    The only teams that don’t need a system are the ones that have so much talent that they’ve got everyone hopelessly outclassed. Everybody else has to have a game plan.
     
  18. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Fancy Title Here

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the coach should also adapt to the system of the players on the team. If the new coach wants to install his system (rather than use the strengths of the current players), prepare for a long rebuild.
     
  19. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Stupid Americans and their systems. Be flexible like European coaches. Coaches like Pep, Klopp, Ten Hag, Arteta, Nagglesmann, Pochetino, Xavi, etc would never be bound to a strict system or rigid ideology. Never!!
     
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  20. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Which was my point.

    And something Porter couldn’t do.
     
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  21. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    You think Pep at Barca is the same Pep at City?

    Really?
     
  22. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In principle, yes. He’s adapted HIS SYSTEM to the English league from the Spanish league, which has different strengths, just like he did in Germany with Bayern. You think he just has dudes out there running around? You think he doesn’t have a system? Seriously?
     
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  23. CybrSlydr

    CybrSlydr Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jun 30, 2013
    Casper, WY
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    United States
    He also has an obscene budget and a cheat code for striker...
     
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  24. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You said “adapted”.

    A coach that adapted a framework to the league and players he was coaching in.

    I want a coach that can do that, adapt to the league and players on the roster, not a strict system you need certain types of players to fit.

    Sari failed at Chelsea because he couldn’t adapt, and Tuchel was sacked after winning the CL when he was found out and couldn’t adapt.

    As was Porter.

    Strict systems are different than the ideas the great coaches have. And they can adapt.
     
  25. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just a coincidence he’s played tiki taka 4-3-3 at all three teams, right? No system there, no sir.
     

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