Over the last 2 seasons Ray Hudson has been found out to be a hoax like Switzer was in Dallas: Two guys who really have no idea what they are doing. Both had sucess at some earlier level - Ray in the broadcast booth and Switzer at college football. Now why someone thought that because Ray Hudson was fun to listen to, he would make a good coach I have no idea. Both Switzer and Hudson has early success, but that merely diguised that fact that it was dumb luck and previously aquired talent that was the reason for their success. Even Rongen at DC won a Cup. Since Miami, Ray has gone 9-16-9 and DC shows no signs of improving. This guy talks about the beauty of the game, flowing and attacking soccer but employs Stoichkov and Kovelenko, two players who have recklessly broken players legs this season. He brought Ivan McKinley with him from Miami who descends from the fine tradituion of Cle Kooiman. DC has scored 4 goals in 6 games and been in 2 0-0 ties. I used to like the guy but Ray Hudson is a fraud and not a very good soccer coach.
Re: Re: Ray Hudson is Barry Switzer of MLS Yeah - him too. The jury is still out on Mike Jefferies, though I hear they're near a decision.
I would say that Thomas Rongen is the Barry Switzer of MLS: A controversial coach who had had some success elsewhere who took over a top team, won initially with it then saw it go in the toilet. Ray Hudson is more like the Chan Gailey of MLS. Unfortunately for United fans, it's gonna take a Bill Parcells of MLS to turn the club around. That coach is out there, but he's a wee bit busy till the middle of July...... 2006.
Re: Re: Ray Hudson is Barry Switzer of MLS When I read the first post I was thinking the exact same thing. While the connection isnt good, I'll agree Hudson has been crap. He should just retire and write a book of quotes. He'd be more successful in that line of work.
Hudson is crap, pure and utter crap. He's got a saying for every situation, yet he still manages to say just about nothing. It looks like poor Ray's race has run, but to paraphrase a line he would use in Miami, 'if they think this is hard, they should get a job roofing in the hot sun'. Time for the Geordie bastard to get out the hammer and tool belt, cos he will need to find a new career. Stupid git, he's nothing more than a Scotsman whose been kicked in the head ! Cheers, "Red"
Re: Re: Ray Hudson is Barry Switzer of MLS No sir, I was not referring to his record at OU. I meant his early success as the Dallas Cowboy coach - winning whatever Roman Numeral Super Bowl that was. Switzer was a great college coach (not that his players were well behaved). Hudson was a great / interesting announcer. Both Hudson and Switzer had success early at their new jobs (Fusion coach and Cowboys coach) which their old jobs got them and looking back it seems more and more that both had less and less to do with that success.
Switzer/Hudson analogy is apt. Sooner fans, even with rich history, are perptually insecure. Is Mike Jeffries the Tim Floyd (young Iowa State bball coach who fasttracked to NBA job and discovered quickly he was in over his head) of MLS?
I'm not sure, but he might be the Richie Pettibone (highly regarded Redskins assistant coach given the reins and immediately revealed as a poor fit) of MLS. And as far as the bootlegger's boy, watch what you say about him. You might as well be talking about Will Rogers in those parts.
Hudson isn't the Switzer of MLS, not even close Yet another thread where only Seagroves has a clue. It sickens me to say that. Switzer was alot of things, but comparing his to Hudson is a joke and and insult even to a scumbag like Switzer. Even comparing the pro careers of the two is a joke. Switzer did actually win a title - in a league much bigger than 12 teams. He was 45-26 overall in the NFL. At OU he was 157-29-4 (0.837 winning percentage) In addition to the 3 national championships, he won 13 Big 8 Titles and was 8-5 as a coach in bowl games. Hudson isn't a winner as a coach, currently he's ony 3 games over .500 and falling. He isn't a cheater like Switzer. He isn't a win-at-all-ethical-cost guy. He will not encougage dc players to rape, pillage, and plunder their way through Beltway bars. They were both quotable salesmen and that's where the similarities end. What a lousy ananlogy.
You're right encouraged is the wrong word - go ahead and look one up the fits the situation of having full knowledge, tight fisted control, implied deniability, and a willingness to ignore everything as coeds were being violated, rules were ignored, and other laws were routinely flat broken. Whatever that word is will fit just fine. Switzer is an otherwise waste of a cells that had one valuable redeeming trait, he can coach winning football. Bottom line is Hudson isn't comparable to Switzer either in terms of being comtenptable or being a winning coach.
So were Tom Osborn and Lawrence Phillips chilling out looking at Hustlers plotting Phillips' next sexual assualt? Working on that ex-fullback's meth lab so that he could go apeshit on his girlfriend? The NCAA could not stand Switzer, didn't like Johnson too much either and totally made examples of OSU and OU in the late 80s. OU, since they had one of the dominant teams of the era, were of course highly visible. To say that things that happened there didn't go on at other college football programs in America is like saying that Brazilians are the only international team that dives/utilizes gamesmanship. Not many in Texas can stand Barry Switzer because he kicked Texas' ass with half of their players. Nebraskans can't stand him because he owned Osborn. No one in either state wants to admit that Oklahoma is the football mecca of the region, perhaps in the whole country. And they tend to be fecking arrogant about it, kind of like Brazil. During Switzer's tenure with the Cowboys, the overwhelmingly pro UT Dallas Morning News ripped on him consistently, all because UT was his personal bitch while he was coaching at OU. And they totally love to talk about Buttertooth Brown's recruiting national championships. To many Texans, Switzer is the Devil personified. You are right that you can't compare Hudson and Switzer....
Say what you want, but at least Switzer never celebrated bringing in an alcoholic former superstar player by taking him out to get stinking drunk. The Ray Hudson disconnect between "I love beautiful soccer" and "get me all the Bulgarian bone-breakers you can find" is fairly common with Brits in America, IMO. They talk about short-passing, ball control, beautiful soccer, but their teams seem to play boot-it-up-and-smash-em-in-the-mouth.
MLS attendance average 13,800 ??????? Fusion attendance, starts to look better and better even Mutiny.. YES, Fusionmansteve.. I miss the Fusion, we all are ! I have no interest in MLS at all. Interestingly, before Fusion was added to MLS, I was a big fan…and watched games. After CONTRACTION, I am not interested at all, I occasionally look up the scores, specially to se what DC/Hudson is doing… but they suck Hudson needs to be in Florida, beers and hooters, at the beach with a beer and a cigar !!! that is ……, what makes the “real” Hudson . I wander what is going to happen to Hudson, if DC keeps on crapping out ??? Example of one more wrong assumption of the CONTRACTION engineers, GarberNFL & Cronies, take what was good from the FUSION, and make it work somewhere else ;( it just did not work that way… Serna, Chacon, and most of lads are gone, and MLS remains… remains as a inferior league than ever before.. in attendance, soccer quality, and credibility Fusion 2001 was just the beginning !!! and the end
Turning the tables on all those gits with accents. Ray Hudson is an interesting quote; but he doesn't know sh!t about the game.