Rapid Decline

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by orbie, Jul 15, 2005.

  1. orbie

    orbie New Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    Austin
    I picked up the latest issue of Soccer America, with Boca and Donovan on the cover. Inside I found an article titled "Clavijo sticks to guns". In short Clavijo states he is not panicking about the not so imporved season. Clavijo tells that Chung requested to be traded and at Hendersons age he it was time to trade and build for the future. The trades enabling money for players like Coner Casey or Jose Cancela.


    They listed these stats
    YEAR GOALS PER GAME
    1996 1.38
    1997 1.56
    1998 1.94
    1999 1.19
    2000 1.34
    2001 1.38
    2002 1.54
    2003 1.33
    2004 0.97
    2005 0.92

    the date at the bottom of the page listed June 27, 2005.

    Cunningham and Petke are improvements, but a game with no goals makes for a poor product on the field.
     
  2. Rei de Boston

    Rei de Boston New Member

    Mar 16, 2004
    No goals on the field is always trouble. However, I cannot fault Clavijo for trading Henderson or Chung. It was good to get some value still for Henderson and if they play it right the allocation they got for Chung could turn out to be very valuable.
     
  3. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    We don't need no stinkin goals!
     
  4. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    For what's it's worth, the average is now 1.06. (18 goals in 17 games) On June 27, the Rapids had played 15 games and scored 16 goals so I'm not sure where the .97 comes from.

    The league average is 1.4 and the Rapids average is only ahead of RSL (.76) and the Crew (.81) - Chivas roared ahead with their 5-1 whooping of RSL.

    Stats from mlsnet.com
     
  5. chilistrider

    chilistrider Together We Rise

    May 9, 2002
    Thornton, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the Crew & CD Chivas both fired their coaches this year!

    On an intellectual level I understand the "rebuilding" rap Clavijo's giving us, but, damn, I get tired of losing!!
     
  6. smudgeyjoe

    smudgeyjoe Member

    Dec 15, 2001
    Westminster Colorado
    I understand the "re" part, we've done it often enough, but I will reserve judgement to see if we are really "building" something here. We have been stiffed too many times. If Fernando really does what we see happening with the Nuggets, then I will be thrilled, but the first year KiKi dismantled the few of our decent players, I couldn't tell if he was going anywhere. Now, he looks to have done a very good job. If these two new players FC is theoretically looking to sign, come in and make a difference, then I will be thrilled. I am hoping we don't continue the revolving door on foreign players, that we actually get some that stay, make a difference, and don't spend 2/3rds of their time here in the training room. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Chung'sleftboot

    Chung'sleftboot New Member

    Apr 3, 2004
    Just win baby! Let the pencil pushers worry about the numbers. :)
     
  8. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    Are we rebuilding around Nkong? Cooke?

    Good Additions:
    Cunningham - first round draft pick.
    Gonzalez
    Freeman
    Petke for Henderson
    Allocation for Chung

    Bad additions;
    Melamed
    Harris
    Denton
    Cullen
    Nkong
    Cooke


    You can say we're rebuilding ... but the above to me doesn't point out wonderful rebuilding moves. I'm not saying it's not going to work ... maybe there are all the right moves. I'm just saying, right now I'm not putting my faith into FC ...

    Where's OneFast to defend his father?
     
  9. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    I pretty much agree with your "good" list. Regarding the "bad"

    Denton, Cullen & Harris - My guess is they were quick/cheap additions to backfill some of those let go early on. Not intended as long term additions.

    Nkong - I'm still undecided. Up until 2 or 3 games ago he was in the "bad" column for me. Then he had a couple of decent games and I started to waver. Lost game put him back in the bad column.

    Cooke - My guess is FC thought he would be part of the rebuilding effort. He has shown more good then bad to me but I'm unsure if he really long term material.

    Melamed - An FC gamble/hunch? Might make a decent center back, but FC has decided he should be a midfielder and (IMHO) he's not an MLS midfielder. Since I believe he's using an SI slot, I believe you've got him in the right column.
     
  10. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    If Clavio really wants to rebuild I would suggest he get rid of every one except Cannon. Heck, why not just hire the entire Boulder Reserve team and fire his. They certainly couldn't do worst than what he has now.
     
  11. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    Chivas bringing in 3 players:
    Chivas USA's prized signing, Juan Pablo "Loquito" Garcia, as well as trialists Hector "Pirata" Castro and Sergio Garcia "Matute" began training with Chivas USA on Tuesday.

    What are the Rapids going to do?

    Sadly I don't think they are going to do a thing! :mad:
     
  12. jimmyco

    jimmyco Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Aurora, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe the secret to success is players with nicknames... :D
     
  13. GoRapids

    GoRapids Member

    Sep 1, 1999
    Boulder CO
    LOL :D
     
  14. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    "Maybe the secret to success is players with nicknames..."

    That and no limit on SIs or YIs if you are a reverse discrimination sort of team?
     
  15. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Zuniga is retiring, and I assume they'll cut Loera again if they need another SI slot.
     
  16. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    "Zuniga is retiring, and I assume they'll cut Loera again if they need another SI slot."

    Thanks, I did put a question mark and I think I'm just in a real cynical mode with last nights performance w/o Pablo and tonight's malicious injury to him leading the charge in that direction.
     
  17. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    I suspect Chivas is playing by the rules (MLS rules may be an oxymoron though). The difference with them is they have a pipleline they can tap which, in theory allows them to know the player they are getting. Theory mind you.
     

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