Rape/Sexual Assault Culture

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  1. Matt in the Hat

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    Well there's the problem. Your situation is weak. If the world did it like Nevada much of these issues would go away

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Nevada
     
  2. Belgian guy

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  3. Belgian guy

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    Lets assume that you are right and the world implemented your idea.
    How would that solve the fact that the world-wide demand is between 100 and 200% higher (depending on what studies you choose to believe) than what could possibly be met with "voluntary" prostitution?
     
  4. JohnR

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    What do you mean by pimping? Beating on women and stealing their money? No quarrel there. Or do you mean having a house, advertising for customers, screening the customers, and serving as the administrator, as in a Nevada brothel. That can be called pimping but it surely should be legal if prostitution is legal.
     
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  5. Belgian guy

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    Any activity where a person gets a cut of what the woman makes without it being clear what service he or she does in return is considered pimping. I believe one way in which they circumvent it over here is by posing as a "car service" that picks up and drops off the women with clients.
     
  6. Matt in the Hat

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    http://www.fleshlight.com/ (NSFW)
     
  7. JohnR

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    OK that shit should be illegal.
     
  8. Belgian guy

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    Or those men will choose to use the services of illegal alternatives.
     
  9. Belgian guy

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    The problem is how easy it is to circumvent. They just provide some bogus service that can look legit on paper.
     
  10. Matt in the Hat

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    If you have a safe legal alternate I see no reason why the police shouldn't go after such people with ferocity.

    Meanwhile, people who want to get their freak on have an option and women who like to be freaky have a place where they can make a ton of money due to such a skewed supply/demand curve. If the pay is high enough you will get more workers voluntarily
     
  11. Belgian guy

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    The police already goes after those people, to little effect.
     
  12. Matt in the Hat

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    Want to borrow this guy?

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  13. ceezmad

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    Sounds to me like you think talent agents should be illigal.
     
  14. JohnR

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    Isn't he arguing instead against misrepresentation? That's how I read it ...
     
  15. Matt in the Hat

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    Well that would just be fraud. Isn't the main reason why a pimp would disguise their identity that it's illegal to be a pimp? Give pimps a legal avenue and that goes away too
     
  16. ceezmad

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    Sounds to me like the Prostitutes need a Union.
     
  17. JohnR

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    Presumably. As prostitution is legal in England, perhaps a Brit can better answer that.
     
  18. ceezmad

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    The thing where I can agree with Belgium guy, is that even in places where prostitution is legal, they are still look down upon by society and in turn by the police force, so the girls are still allowed to be exploited as the Johns, police, media, society ignore any abuses that go down in their work place.

    Like I said, they need a/better Union.
     
  19. Belgian guy

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    Shouldn't pimping be illegal?
     
  20. Belgian guy

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    It isn't just stuff like that.

    e.g. try to get health insurance as a prostitute in a country where it is legalized...
     
  21. Matt in the Hat

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    Not it if is done ethically
     
  22. ceezmad

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    Rebrand as talent agents.

    Maybe even regulate the cut they are allowed to take.
     
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  23. Matt in the Hat

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    Hookers in Nevada have mandatory tests every other week
     
  24. ceezmad

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    But are they allowed to be covered under the ACA.

    I don't see why not, I assume they would file as self employed, I wonder what stripers will do, they do work in a cash business, so it is not like they declare taxes, so how can they get self insurance, file as unemployed?

    The stripper business is a legal business, but it can still be very shady and have parts of its operation outside the law.

    I am pretty sure most/many legal whore houses would work in similar shady ways as run down strip joints, more than the HBO TV show.
     
  25. Matt in the Hat

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    Disagree with point 2. It's impossible to regulate since agents can always add overage to make up for the fixed rate. That's just how the representative world works
     

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