Rape/Sexual Assault Culture - Part 2

In this specific case almost everyone who worked with her directly or indirectly knew because she had been open and up front about it.

I don't really get this need to reframe my statement as an indictment on her instead of on him, which had clearly been the intention.

 

But you'd said you didn't know he was a predator at the time.

 

Sure, got it. He kept going after women in the office and was accused by multiple people of sexual harassment. That's creepy. But seeing a woman who has health issues is not creepy.

 

It is if you're trying to use a vulnerable person to get your nut off because you're too lame to get anyone else.

 

Which was clearly not the case, since he was hitting on every woman in the office, mentally healthy or not.

 

But I don't wish to belabor the point, which is very much a side issue. Carry on.

 

I don't know if Rumble actively advertises. If they do, that Chair just gave their marketing department the sort of gift that they could use to promote their brand.

 

Okay, that's just ridiculous. She should have slapped him and said, "You don't have enough dick for me anyway. That's why I just slapped the shoe polish off your head" <wipes hand on dress>

 

So Maitlis interviewed Brand 4 years ago and didn't put him being a rapist to him, something which was 'an open secret'... and that's NOT ' a failure of journalism ' to use your phrase.

Coz it kinda sounds like it might be or, alternatively, maybe it WASN'T an 'open secret' as you're suggesting.

It's pretty obvious that most people didn't know that sort of detailed information about the guy and those that did kept it quiet for whatever reason, (threats or whatever), whilst others thought it was part of him 'playing a character', wrongly as it now looks.

 

As are people who want to help people like that, (sometimes because they've had mental issues of their own?). Just wanting to have a 'relationship' isn't, in and of itself, a reason to think someone's a predator.

You'd have to look at other factors such as his relationship to other women to decide. In this case, by the sounds of it, that was also a problem but that's another matter.

 

WHAT? A journalist can't even ASK someone like brand whether all of his relationships have been entirely consensual or how he could know he wasn't abusing his position of power if she knows, for a fact, that he's raped or coerced women or young girls to have sex with him?

No. Don't be daft. She quite clearly didn't know anything about that sort of thing.

She obviously thought the guy was a lowlife womaniser but that's about it.

 

OK. Well, I absolutely agree there. As someone who was the girl's boss he shouldn't be doing something like that but that's also largely because he's their boss... not so much because of her mental history.

 

I don't think anyone's doing that, tbh. That's just a strawman argument.

But, changing subject slightly, you said some of the women said he'd made creepy remarks or come onto them later on but what did the men think of the guy? Were there no signs?

 

Talking about Maitlis and Brand, this was interesting and probably more relevant to how knew what and when...

 

The Met police have said someone has been arrested. https://t.co/dbRulNhCTx

— Standard News (@standardnews) September 27, 2023

15 year old girl stabbed to death after refusing to accept boy's flowers.

 

Oh, I trust him absolutely... to be a scummy Sun journalist who was a 'friend' of someone like Russel Brand and very much part of that idiotic 'lad culture'.

He apparently now feels 'bad' for what he did before but do you think he'd feel bad if you'd asked him at the time? Would he feck!!!!

He reminds me of these morons who go around trying to claim that 'Everyone was racist in the...' (fill in whatever decade they were a racist scumbag and now feel embarrassed about it). They didn't feel embarrassed about it then and are just upset they've now been found out.

I've got NO time for people like that.

In this case we're talking about women but it wasn't just them that was the target of their attacks. Women, POC's, 'Lefites' like me, immigrants, you name it, they despised the lot of us.

As far as I'm concerned, fcek 'im and the horse he rode in on.

 

Well, I get your point but I think the 'stabbed to death' bit is probably more the point of the story because most children on buses don't carry knives.

The kid sounds a wrong'un.

 

This story hasn't really left my mind. It's just so grim.

I feel so sorry for this girl and her family and friends.
I cannot escape the thought of what this boy did either. Packing flowers and a knife, the outcome of the encounter apparently depending on whether or not she accepted the flowers. How do you reach such a toxic level of entitlement at the age of 17?