Rank the Fire's rivals

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by HalaMadrid, May 13, 2004.

  1. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Rank them in order of your personal distaste.

    I think maybe this would be interesting to see.
     
  2. Fanaddict

    Fanaddict Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    streamwood IL USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    La
    Ny
    Sj
    Ny
    Ne
    Dallas
    Dc
    Columbus
    Colorado
     
  3. dlm_Fire

    dlm_Fire Member+

    Aug 16, 2002
    Chicago
    1. LA
    2. Dallas
    3. Metrostars
    4. N.E
    5. San Jose
    6. K.C.
    7. D.C.
    8. Colorado
    9. Columbus
     
  4. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    What I'll do is when this reaches a good level I'll rank them overall based on first, second, and third place votes. First gets five, second three, third one.

    So the rankings, for example, as of now would be:

    47 (8) Dallas
    33 (2) LA
    19 (1) Metrostars
     
  5. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    1. LA
    2. Metros
    3. Dallas
    4. SJ
    5. NE
    6. KC
    7. DC
    8. Colorado
    9. Jabolteh
    10. Columbus
     
  6. CUS

    CUS New Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    There's always the 'Which Team do you Hate' vs. 'Which team do you love to beat' debate.
     
  7. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Jabloteh before Columbus!

    1 Dallas
    2 LA
    3 Metros
    4 Everyone else in MLS
    5 Milwaukee Wave United
    6 Other Mexican and Central American clubs
    7 Barcelona
    8 Rangers
    9 Atletico Madrid
    10 Chicago Fire Reserves
    11 DePaul University
    12 Marquette University
    13 University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
    14 Columbus
     
  8. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Yeah those are different questions. Teams you love to beat and rivals aren't necessarily the same question.

    The former changes year to year or with player movement. The latter never does.
     
  9. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    1. Metros
    2. LA
    3. KC
    4. NE
    5. Dal
    6. SJ
    7. DC
    8. Colorado
    9. Real Madrid/Celtic/other crap teams
    10. Columbus
     
  10. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    1. LA
    2. Dallas
    3. Metrostars
    4. N.E
    5. D.C.
    6. K.C.
    7. San Jose
    8. Colorado
    9. Columbus
     
  11. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Well, no one likes you either, Green Bay boy :)
     
  12. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Love to beat 'em all.
     
  13. CelticOnFire

    CelticOnFire New Member

    Aug 8, 2003
    London right now
    1. Dallas
    2. New York/New Jersey
    3. San Jose
    4. LA
    5. New England
    6. KC
    7. DC
    8. Colorado
    8.5 Chicago Magic
    9. Milwaukee Wave United
    10. Chivas USA
    11. Real(y sucks) Madrid
    12. Cleveland Steamers
    13. Fire Youth Teams
    14. AYSO Region 418 U-10 Girls
    15. Chicago MISL Team
    16. Lakefront Soccer
    17. Euro Soccer Club
    18. Rangers
    19. Manchester United
    20. "The Urkel of MLS"
     
  14. -cman-

    -cman- New Member

    Apr 2, 2001
    Clinton, Iowa
    As much as I love to hate Dallas, there is just too much to hate L.A. for; Luisa, Open Cup 2002, LALAS!, MLS Semis 2002, Bo, you name it. Dallas is just sad and happens to hold the cup that should be righfully ours. But when we play LA it's bad blood, pure and simple.
     
  15. FairWeatherFan

    Sep 9, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    1) El Pescadito (and LA)
    2) New England
    3) New Jersey
    5) DC (Washington)
    6) Dallas
    7) 'Zards
    8) San Jose
    9) Fulham Utd.
    10) Milwaukee Wave
    11) Rochester (aka "the Ring injury town")
    12) University of Chicago Women's Team (Div. III's finest)
    13) The nation of Botswana
    14) (tie) Netherlands and Portugal nats.
    15) The team with the Costa Rican Greg Loughanis

    end of story.
     
  16. Fuegofan

    Fuegofan Member+

    Feb 17, 2001
    Chicago
    Hm. Voted before I read the bit about "rivals" vs "love to hate." I hate New York so much that I can't really see past that. I know a lot of you feel that Dallas is our biggest rival, but I just can't get up for their games. They have a stupid name, similar colors to us (though much uglier), have a crap mascot, come from a crap state and by default a crap city, and other than one painful playoff series, are pretty much a crap team. I try not to think much about crap. For me the whole rivlary thing is about bragging rights. No one out there will ever care about Dallas much. So as long as we consistently beat New York and LA (and DC) and remain one of the best teams in the league, I can brag to my friends in Spain (and England, and Germany, and...) that we have the best right here in Chicago. So I guess for me, with my priorities it goes something like

    1)any foreign team
    2)NY
    3)LA
    4)DC
    5)NE
    6)Columbus (only because they're driving distance and it would be far too embarrassing to ever lose to them)
    7... everybody else
     
  17. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Similar colors doesn't seem to bother Man U/Liverpool.

    I do not think you can argue that, on average through our history, there has been more consistently competitive opponents to us game to game than Dallas and LA. It's a pretty fair bet anytime we play either one of them more so than any other club in the US fur will fly and the result is anyone's guess. And if that's not the definition of a rivalry, I don't know what is.
     
  18. zverskiy yobar

    zverskiy yobar BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 10, 2002
    hmm.. you must have started following the team around 2002 if you think there is more bad blood between LA and Chicago, either that you have ADD.

    I know I know those stupid OZ comments from 98... but that is more of a joke then true bad blood.

    OC 02 :rolleyes:

    everytime we meet the burnt in OC competition it seems to hold some record for red cards or something.

    I mean you had broken bones, Life Bans, and real animosity between these two teams.
    I can rememebr who said it (Marsch?) but a few years back a Fire player commented how much the Fire players really disliked the Burn players .
    this wasnt just a casual pregame comment.. it was one that was pretty nasty and barbed .. anyone rememebr the comment and who said it?
     
  19. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    CJ has said on an occasion or two how he and the guys put something extra into tackles when they play Dallas.

    I wish i could find some of the old quotes, there were press wars between the teams in places.

    And as with LA, I wonder if the fact a fair bit of the animosity between us and them stems from the Open Cup plays into some people's dismissing of them as rivals, as if league games only count. Whether that's right or not, i bet it has an effect.
     
  20. Fuegofan

    Fuegofan Member+

    Feb 17, 2001
    Chicago
    I'll grant that every time we play Dallas or LA, fur will fly. Similarly with New England. The teams do not like each other. That said, we barely fouled Dallas the last time we played (though the reverse was not true). And yes, this physicality plays into the whole rivalry, just like Bear-Packers.

    As for the similar colors thing--I just find their color of red butt-ugly. Nothing to do with the rivalry, but it gives me less to respect. That said, LA's colors aren't beautiful, but they are an opponent I have the highest respect for. They seem to have a well run organization and there is no team who I feel better about beating than them. It always feel like we've accomplished something worthy. And that's part of a rivalry--respecting your opponent. Few here respect Columbus, so they aren't our rivals. But ever since the Bradley-Zambrano exchange, and the year they stopped us from the US Open Cup and the MLS Cup championship, I've really hated that team.
     
  21. genpabloescobar

    Feb 17, 2002
    I don't think Columbus can be last because they're in our division. For me, Colorado is Chicago's least rival...I mean, who do they have or what have they ever done that could've possibly caused hatred. Even their potential biggest villan at any point, Carlos Valderamma, was just laziness personified.
     
  22. mactheknife

    mactheknife New Member

    Aug 2, 2002
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    columbus isn't a rival...rivalry games cant be boring
     
  23. I thought this whole rivalry-thread bit had gotten out of control, but now there are two rivalry threads on the forum front page! For Chrissake people, give me some new material to work with!

    That said, I'm going to cave in and throw out my 2 cents. Columbus is the one team I absolutely HATE. And its not the team so much, since they'repathetic, but the entity in general. It probably has something to do with the whole press-charges-for-ripping-their-paper/getting-tossed-for-being-punched/vomiting-McDonald's-on-they-way-home stuff that has stemmed from games with them.
     
  24. Krasny

    Krasny Member

    Jan 26, 2002
    Chicago West Side
    I think the split between the pre 2001 fans and the post 2001 fans is pretty clear - maybe the newer fans just aren't as familiar with our history with Dallas as the ones who were on board in 98 and 99. not that it makes either better but it's an interesting split

    That said, even with the dallas rivalry in a watered down state compared to past years, well over 50 percent of you still rank them as our biggest rival and that's got to mean something.
     
  25. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Now that we have over a hundred votes:

    THROUGH 102 VOTES
    1 Dallas.... (63) 396pt
    2 LA........ (22) 314pt
    3 Metrostars (17) 208pt
     

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