Random World Cup Facts

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  1. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

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    Nov 17, 2005
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    not a particular "world cup random fact" but it is somehow related.

    Talking about Italy and Portugal. Did you know, they, never match up in a finals tournament? Ok, you might say, Portugal is only a regular since the year 2000 but let's have a closer look.

    1966 (WC in England) Italy would have played Portugal in the semi final, if they hadn`t crashed to North Korea
    1996 (EC in England) Italy would have played Portugal in the quarter final, if Smicer hadn't score for Czech Rep. vs Russia in the 88th minute.
    2000 (EC in Belgium-Holland) Italy would have played Portugal in the final, if France had not given a questionable penalty in extratime with Zidane scoring the golden goal.
    2002 (WC in Korea-Japan) Italy would have played Portugal in the Round-of-16, if Portugal hadn't sent two players off and Portugal would have won against the co-hosts.
    2006 (WC in Germany) Italy would have played Portugal in the final, if Portugal would have managed to overcome France.
    2012 (EC in Poland and Ukraine) Italy would have played Portugal in the final, if Portugal would have been better on penalties then against Spain.

    So there were many almost and nears already, but we still wait for a final tournament between these two big football nations.
     
  2. Cliveworshipper

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    Dec 3, 2006
    #2202 Cliveworshipper, Apr 26, 2019
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    Portugal also could have made the knockout round in 2002 by eating he USA , which they didn’t.

    You forgot the Brasil 2014 World Cup, where Portugal lost to Germany and tied the USA in the group stage and didn’t make the knockout round on goal differential.

    Not that it mattered, because Italy didn’t get out of group either, losing to Costa Rica and Uruguay by identical 0-1 scores.
     
  3. Paul Calixte

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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Despite qualifying for 7 of the last 8 WC finals, the US haven't faced a South American opponent since Brazil knocked them out (literally, in Tab Ramos' case :mad:) in '94.

    No other Concacaf side has had to wait so long:

    • Mexico have faced Conmebol opposition in every World Cup this century
    • Costa Rica have been grouped with a South American team every time they have qualified
    • Honduras faced South American opponents in 2010 and 2014
    • Trinidad and Tobago played Paraguay in 2006
    • Jamaica played Argentina in 1998

    I didn't forget about Panama, but don't know if their case qualifies as a "wait": just made the WC finals last time and did not have a Conmebol opponent in their group.
     
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  4. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    The US also knocked Colombia out in '94, although not literally, unless one considers the inadvertent US role in the fate of Andres Escobar. :(
     
  5. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    But it's literally the same case as Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago.
     
  6. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me put it this way: the clock started ticking for them in 2018 - we'll see if they make it to 5 more WC finals w/o running into a South American side as the US have.
     
  7. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    It's the same clock as Trinidad and Tobago and Jamaica. If you didn't want to include Panama because they only qualified once, then why use Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago as examples then?
     
  8. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Moderator fight! :x3:
     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, let me rephrase:

    Despite qualifying for 7 of the last 8 WC finals, the US haven't faced a South American opponent since Brazil knocked them out (literally, in Tab Ramos' case :mad:) in '94.

    No other Concacaf side has had to wait so long since their last showdown with Conmebol opposition for another crack at it, with a pair of haven't-been-back-since exceptions:

    • Panama have yet to play their first Conmebol opponent in the WC
    • Mexico have faced Conmebol opposition in every World Cup this century
    • Costa Rica have been grouped with a South American team every time they have qualified
    • Honduras faced South American opponents in 2010 and 2014
    • Trinidad and Tobago played Paraguay in 2006
    • Jamaica played Argentina in 1998
    • El Salvador played Argentina in 1982
    • Haiti played Argentina in 1974
     
  10. Gibraldo

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    Nov 17, 2005
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    that record is broken since 2018
     
  11. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
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    India
    Here’s an interesting one. Every World Cup except for 1970, 1974, and 2018 (18 out of 21 WCs) has featured at least one of the USA or Hungary. Only one, however - 1934 - has featured both.
     
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  12. californiabloke

    Jan 16, 2010
    For the first time since the WC went to a 16-team knockout round in 1986, the 2018 tournament in Russia featured four semi-finalists (FRA, BEL, CRO, ENG) who had not advanced to at least the same stage in the previous WC.

    A minimum of one semi-finalist from each WC between 1986 to 2014 had reached at least the semi-finals of the previous tournament.

    2014: GER, NED
    2010: GER
    2006: GER
    2002: BRA
    1998: BRA
    1994: ITA
    1990: W GER, ARG
    1986: W GER, FRA
     
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  13. Hayaka

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    Jun 21, 2009
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    2018 is also the first time since the opening WC in 1930 that neither Brazil nor Germany reached the semi-finals. And the first World Cup ever that neither made it when both took part.
     
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  14. red.boots

    red.boots New Member

    Chelsea
    Aug 14, 2019
    US Oklahoma City
    Cool, this is really interesting!
     
  15. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

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    #2215 Hayaka, Dec 25, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2019
    A Christmas quiz!

    Assuming the 2022 World Cup is actually held in Qatar, that country, aside from Uruguay (the hosts of the inaugural World Cup), will be the second host country to never qualify for a World Cup prior to hosting. Can you name the first one?
     
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  16. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
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    Italy in 1934. They were also the only hosts that had to qualify competitively for their own WC, which they did by beating Greece over two legs IIRC.
     
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  17. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    Well, as you pointed out, Italy did have to qualify prior to their hosting the 1934 World Cup. The host I was thinking of, did not actually qualify for any prior World Cups, including the one they hosted.
     
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  18. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
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    #2218 Every Four Years, Dec 26, 2019
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    Ah... you're excluding automatic qualifications. In that case, I believe Brazil qualified (or entered, rather) for 1930 by invite, for 1934 and 1938 due to withdrawals of other teams, and in 1950 obviously as hosts. Therefore, Brazil did not technically qualify competitively for any WC by that point.

    IIRC they only first qualified competitively for the 1958 edition (after Argentina returned from its hissy fit that saw it miss the '50 and '54 cups)

    EDIT: Brazil in fact did have to qualify for the 1954 edition. South America was effectively given one spot for the tournament excluding the defending champions Uruguay who autoqualified. Brazil beat Chile and Paraguay, while Peru withdrew and Argentina as alluded to earlier refused to enter. Nonetheless as of 1950 Brazil had not qualified competitively for any WC.
     
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  19. Hayaka

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    #2219 Hayaka, Dec 26, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2019
    Correct. Brazil was the country I was thinking of. I was counting on everyone just assuming Brazil must have qualified earlier, having been to every World Cup. :D

    Looking at it further, I realize now that Chile also never had to qualify on the pitch before hosting in 1962.

    I think that's it though. Everyone else after Chile (and before Qatar) already succeeded in a qualifying campaign before their turns as hosts. I suppose you could put an asterisk next to Japan's joint hosting in 2002, as they had never qualified for a World Cup at the time they awarded it (in 1996), but between 1996 and 2002 they qualified for the 1998 World Cup.
     
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  20. Ummi40

    Ummi40 New Member

    Aug 1, 2016
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    What to wait 2022- first yellow card or red card to the coach.
     
  21. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    Qatar in 2022 will likely end another World Cup tradition: No host country has ever lost their opening match.
     
  22. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Francisco North Bay, Bel Marin Keys
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    Up until 2018, the biggest difference in population between two sides at the World Cup was Costa Rica against China in 2002, with Costa Rica's 1/3rd of 1% of that of China. That record was broken at the 2018 Cup in the match between Nigeria and Iceland, with Iceland's population 1/10th of 1% of that of Nigeria.

    Presumably that record will stand until Iceland plays the US or Brazil at the World Cup someday, which may not be for a long time. Iceland's golden generation is just about done.
     
  23. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
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    United States
    ...or, if trends stay as they are in Concacaf, Curaçao making the 2026 or 2030 WC finals is not farfetched.
     
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  24. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    Belgium beat the jinx.
     
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  25. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    World Cup 2022 may be the first World Cup with 6 Asian countries in it, should the 5th Asian country win their inter-continental playoff. Should that be against an OFC team, they might have a decent chance. Bother Conmebol (2014) + CAF (2010) have had World Cups with 6 teams in them.
     

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