Random World Cup Facts

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Every Four Years, Jun 23, 2022.

  1. Every Four Years

    May 16, 2015
    Miramar, Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Welp, in the end neither made it but Bosnia's qualification does allow me to give you this little factoid:

    Since the dissolution of Yugoslavia, starting at the 1998 World Cup, there have always been exactly two former Yugoslav nations at each World Cup.

    1998: Croatia and FR Yugoslavia (later became Serbia and Montenegro)
    2002: Croatia and Slovenia
    2006: Croatia and Serbia and Montenegro
    2010: Serbia and Slovenia
    2014: Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia
    2018: Croatia and Serbia
    2022: Croatia and Serbia
    2026: Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia
     
  2. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    As you indicated, the second-lowest-ranked team in UEFA playoffs has made it to 2026 WC:
    BIH(FIFA rank #71) eliminated both WAL(32) and ITA(12).

    Life is a BIH.
     
  3. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    South American teams don’t lose many intercontinental playoffs but when they do Graham Arnold is on the coaching staff of the team that beats them.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Only the second time CONMEBOL has lost to an AFC team. First time in Qualifying, the other was in the finals ('18 Col-Jap.).
     
  5. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Sigh.... by mixing WC qualification results with actual WC matches, then BOL counts as the 4th Conmebol team to have lost vs AFC.

    2 WC losses (1st in 2018, 3rd in 2022) and 2 WC qualification losses(2nd in 2018, 4th in 2026).

    Their 2022 loss was very much documented, thanks to KSA's desperate need of validation:
     
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  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    What was the loss in qualification 2018?
     
  7. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    You are right, it was in 2022 qualification instead. @almango included it in Graham Arnold's tally: PER loss to AUS via PKs.
     
  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sigh.
    Everyone makes mistakes.
    Sigh.
     
  9. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Do penalties count as official losses?
     
  10. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Mine was a comment about unnecessary bundling WC stats with WC qualification stats: a desperate need of validation from ROW fans, in my opinion.

    They are really different levels of competition/importance, even FIFA counts WC qualifiers as 50% less important than WC matches:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Men's_World_Ranking#Calculation_method
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sigh.

    It was the first time a CONMEBOL team lost to an AFC team in a one off Qualifier on a neutral site.

    Sigh.
     
  12. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    You just answered your question by agreeing with @almango on his tally of Graham Arnold's victories vs Conmebol.
     
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sigh.

    There are qualifying stats in this thread other than mine.

    Sigh.
     
  14. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sigh.
    Answer the question.
     
  15. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    You should have been more specific then. Better luck next time.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Sigh.
    That is all you had to say.
     
  17. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    It has been a prolonged learning process for Graham Arnold vs Conmebol:
    - playoff losses vs ARG as a player in '93
    - playoff losses/wins vs URU as assistant coach
    - recent playoff wins vs PER/BOL as head coach

    His winning managerial trend is underscored by facing ever worsening Conmebol teams: URU in '01+'05 >> PER in '22 >> BOL in '26

    Conmebol losses in intercontinental playoffs:

    1961: MEX 1-0 PAR
    1977: HUN 6-0 BOL + BOL 2-3 HUN

    2001: AUS 1-0 URU + URU 3-0 AUS; G.Arnold as AUS assistant coach
    2005: URU 1- 0 AUS + AUS 1-0 URU (4-2 in PKs); G.Arnold as AUS assistant coach
    2022: AUS 0-0 PER (5-4 in PKs); G.Arnold as AUS head coach
    2026: IRQ 2-1 BOL; G.Arnold as IRQ head coach
     
  18. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Didn’t mean to start a debate. By losing an IC playoff I mean the team that didn’t progress. Doesn’t matter if it’s aggregate, extra time or penalties. I just found it interesting that for the three most recent losses GA was on the coaching staff of the winner.
     
  19. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I understood what you were trying to say.
     
  20. Xylophone

    Xylophone Member

    Fiorentina
    Jan 30, 2018
    Only six Italians born in the 1990s have been at a World Cup so far: Mario Balotelli, Ciro Immobile, Lorenzo Insigne, Mattia Perin, Mattia De Sciglio & Marco Verratti. All of them except for Perin have played in a World Cup. Only Balotelli and De Sciglio have played a full 90 minute game in a World Cup. Provided that Italy qualify for 2030 World Cup, chances are that there will be at least a few players born in the 90s in that squad. However, the youngest of them (born in late 1990s) will still be 30 years old, so you can't overlook the possibility that the new generation outcompetes them.
     
  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to FIFA, no.

    On a separate note: now it's official, Haiti are the only Caribbean side to qualify for multiple World Cup finals. Better luck next time @Athlone
     
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  22. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Matthias Ginter of Germany was in the squad at WCs 2014, 2018 and 2022.

    It took him 13 occassions to make his debut on the field when he was subbed in in the last group match of Germany vs. Costa Rica, when they felt short qualifying for the 2nd round.

    So despite the option, he wasn't featuring in 7 matches in Brazil, 3 matches in Russia and 2 matches in Qatar.

    I cannot imagine, that any other footballer even is in double digits in that feat - wating for the on field debut at a world cup.
     
  23. Xylophone

    Xylophone Member

    Fiorentina
    Jan 30, 2018
    #373 Xylophone, Apr 9, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2026
    There's Luisão, who was part of Brazil's 2006 & 2010 World Cup squads, with zero playing time. So that's 10 games in total. It is an interesting stat regarding Ginter, one that will be hard to beat unless you are a goalkeeper.

    Edit: Martin Keown also got 0 playing time at WC 1998 & 2002 for England.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Brazil has the most officiating crews/refs going to the World Cup in 2026. It is also the most referee official delegation in history from one nation in a tournament. (9 in total.)
    USA and Argentina are second. (8).
     
  25. Gibraldo

    Gibraldo Member+

    radnicki nis
    Serbia
    Nov 17, 2005
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    You have to go back to the year 1986 to have a world cup won by a non-seeded team (Argentina was pot 2, drawn together with title holder italy).

    And moreover, since then only Croatia was able to reach a World cup final as a non-seeded team in 2018.
     
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