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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by thebigman, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Arsenal FC
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  2. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
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  3. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
  4. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Kroenke is a real estate guy, he built Sofi, it doesn't exactly shock me that he wants to do something with a stadium that predates his ownership. There is a lot of money to be made with outside events like concerts or getting in on the NFL rotation.
     
  5. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ugh . . . I miss Highbury
     
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  6. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Upside, more folks can go to matches. There's great shawarma shop on the long walk up from the closest tube station. Downside, it's not our, won't feel like home and it's a pain in the ass to get there from Islington.
     
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  7. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    I don’t see any upside for a regular fan
    Just an upside for the ownership

    that’s just how this shit works now
    Pretty much in all walks of life
     
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  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    This… X10
     
  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they close the Grove for a season or two, and force us to play elsewhere (Wembley… or god forbid the Lane!) then they better do something more worthwhile than +10K seats. The main thing I’d like to see is steeper/closer stands, but I’m assuming that may be too big an ask… within the bones of the current stadium.
     
  10. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    --other--
    I think they plan on improving the concessions experience along with more seats.

    But my best guess is they want to make the stadium, NFL accessible.

    Emirates was supposed to be THE London stadium after Wembley, but both been eclipsed by the Tottenham stadium.
     
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  11. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I do as well. But serious question, do you think Arsenal should still be playing there ---- in a 38,000 seat stadium?
     
  12. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    This is an issue for Arsenal but across all sports and especially in focus now with World Cup tickets on sale, what do you do when demand greatly exceeds supply?

    FIFA is running scammy deals where you pay a non-refundable fee to have the right to buy a face value ticket to the final - almost certainly in the nosebleeds - if and only if your team makes the final. They've reported already made millions on these deals.

    If Arsenal can increase the supply, it's nice, but I'm sure any renovation will come with lots of new expensive premium options.

    I buy tickets on SeatGeek all the time, usually good seats for low demand games on the cheap. But I've also splurged on premium tickets so I'm part of the problem.

    I don't know how you solve basic economics, should it all be a lottery? Or reward loyalty, which locks out a ton of fans?
     
  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Moderator
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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    No, probably not. It would be an example of a diminishing set of anachronistic grounds. And especially so for a “big” club like ours.

    That said, I’d be happy if everyone was still playing in traditional 4-standers, tight to the pitch. Even with their shortcomings.

    But you & I may be a rare breed of fan who thinks a visit to a creaky, imperfect little ground like Loftus Road is a treat.

    ps. I have always been luke about our new stadium’s design, thus my comments above about what I’d wishfully dream of them fixing in a rumored upgrade.
     
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  14. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fulham upgraded the Cottage they best they could with the limited space they had - and it perfectly suits a club like Fulham. Unfortunately, a lot of clubs outgrow the standard and traditions of stadiums we all love. It is what it is.
     
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  15. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Man U is bleeding money and trying to get public money now

    chelsea needs a lot of capital to renovate their toilet bowl
     
  16. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Loftus Road is a perfectly cromulent stadium for a club like Queens Park Rangers, but if they somehow figure out how to not suck ass and stay in the top flight for an extended period of time, they would definitely want a bigger stadium.
     
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  17. yossarian

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I enjoyed going there but if I was a season ticket holder, I wouldn't have wanted my seat. Sure it was really close to the pitch, but a column blocked a big chunk of my view of the top of one of the penalty boxes. Brentford, I thought, was a nice ground that was modern but also had that older feel, despite being quite new.
     
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  18. yossarian

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I agree it's a bit more cookie cutter than I'd prefer, but not cookie cutter to the extreme like RFK, or the Vet, or Old Busch, or old Giants, or old Atlanta Fulton County-----gross.
     
  19. NorthBank

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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Grove is nice to look at, but it’s too shallow a bowl. That was always the fundamental architectural “mistake” IMHO.
     
  20. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  21. NorthBank

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    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Adrian Clarke shared a stat that he's going to use in an impending analysis on our defensive prowess:

    Fewest touches in your own box by an opponent (for this EPL season presumably):
    Arsenal - 104
    Chelsea - 140
    Liverpool - 160-ish​
     
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  22. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This episode was so incredible. I’m so happy to be reminded of it.

    Long live King Benjamin White!
     
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  23. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Yep. Here's to him shaking off the rust to get some proper rotation with Timber, which is better for both in the long run and the team.
     
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  24. AmericanGunner

    Sep 7, 2003
    U.S.A.
    #2049 AmericanGunner, Oct 11, 2025
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2025
    I was wondering why we never hosted a European cup final and I was told on another forum it was because our stadium is too small .I'm not saying its the reason we are expanding but it could also be a consideration. Albeit a secondary or tertiary consideration.

    My worry is obviously the club unable to buy what we needed in the interim. We weren't able to when Ashburton Grove was built .However, as I understand it, Spurs still performed well when they had to use Wembley.
     
  25. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Emirates is a category 4 stadium per UEFA and FIFA standards, which is the highest level. So seating capacity isn't the reason it hasn't hosted a major final. My guess it's simply the fact that if a tournament final is going to be in London, you have Wembley, which is bigger. But the Emirates meets all the requirements.
     

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