Alert: Random Arsenal Shizzle

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by thebigman, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
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    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    On a surface level, yeah. But I'm sure the devil is in the details. It says losses were 6.6m more than the prior year, which would suggest 97.6m in losses the last 2 years. So a loss of more than 7.4m this year, or more than 7.4m in 2021, would exceed the 105m cap.

    But investment in youth academies and women's teams don't count towards PSR. So maybe the relevant number for PSR purposes is lower?

    The 105m is also fairly arbitrary, it hasn't increased with inflation. And 105m in losses is very different if you are Luton or if you are City.
     
  2. chjoak

    chjoak Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
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  3. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
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    The powers of modern medicine.
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    IIRC Arsenal have very little headroom with the PSR rules at the moment
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    United States
    Yeah that's what I was assuming. Thus my comment about the loss, even if "only" 52M, having some negative impact on the upcoming window. Unless of course we do some bang up work on outgoing player sales fees?! :D
     
  6. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Looks like only around £34m of this loss will count towards the PSR calculation, so they’ll be able to lose a similar amount next year. With Champions League and other revenue increasing they should be fine to spend this summer.
     
  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Connecticut
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    United States
    It's 105M Pounds total over a 3-year window, right?
     
  8. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

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    United States
    Yes, but there are a lot of things that don’t count toward the calculation, like ‘exceptional’ write-downs and investments in the youth team and women’s team, etc., so the actual losses that are reported are not the same as those counted for PSR purposes.
     
  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Connecticut
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    Yup. Had heard that
     
  10. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Just noticed that with Chelsea’s advancement in the FA Cup, Arsenal’s home game vs Chelsea will have to be rescheduled, leaving a 19 day gap between the home game with Porto and the showdown with City at City. I’m not sure whether this is good or bad, but I’m leaning toward it being a good thing. Maybe they should schedule another warm weather training camp, the last one definitely revitalized the team.:D:D
     
  11. maskito

    maskito Member+

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    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
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    United States
    I saw that as well. Hopefully it allows more of the fringe and injured players who are returning to first team training to better assimilate for a strong run in the final stretch. Notably, I'm looking at OZ, Partey, Timber, Vieira, Tomi, and ESR.
     
  12. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

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    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
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    19 day break, plus Timber Partey and Jesus coming back....some extra juice for our title charge!
     
  13. NorthBank

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    United States
    Could be wrong but I don't think we should count on Timber being match fit before mid April.
     
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  14. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

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    He’s in full training. I bet we see him on the bench before the international break. But, yes, ‘match fit’ for starts will probably be after the break.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Playing Timber seems so dicey this year.
     
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  16. yossarian

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    Mid to late April at the earliest.
     
  17. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

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    Kansas City
    My favorite player

     
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  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Excellent! He's undersung and underrated. Thought that's changing fairly quickly it seems.

    If he doesn't have a thread already, why not make one?! After all he's your fave :)
     
  19. CarlosKaiser

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  20. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I've made Champions League Draw threads in the past, but they are typically short lived. Does anyone object to discussing who we draw here?

    I'm about to go to bed and don't feel like hyping this up right now, but the draw kicks off about 7 hours from now...

    I don't think Arsenal should fear any remaining team.

    They're all top teams, that's why they made it this far.

    Personally, I'd prefer to avoid City, Barca and Bayern for recency reasons.

    My dream matchup would be Real. A chance to play on the biggest stage in Europe, in my opinion.

    Maybe I should have just created a thread?
     
  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    It had to be Bayern, didn’t it.
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    United States
    We owe them.
     
  23. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
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    United States
    Bayern and then either City or Real.

    One set of fixtures at a time.

    @yossarian is right, we owe Bayern a good whoopin'
     
  24. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Arsenal FC
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    --other--
  25. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    The narrative requires Bayern. As Jitters would say, this is tremendous content.
     
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