Racism - Forever and Always

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  1. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The great philosopher Yellowman has a lot to say about this:

    Seh, if you have a start, yuh mus have an end
    If yuh have a pey-per, yuh mus 'ave a pen
    Five plus five, it equal to ten
    If yuh 'ave a goat, you put dem in a pen
    Jump fe happines, yuh jump fe joy
    Yuh no fe call Yellowman nuh bwoi

    The origin of the use of "man" came from Black jazz musicians over 100 years ago. They would call each other "man" as a sign of respect, because they were often called the disrespectful "boy."
     
  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    Putting here as I think it is more relevant that the sports thread.

    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ler-of-the-year-jess-carter-england-interview

    Jess Carter has spent her life grappling with when to hold back and when to speak up; wrestling with being naturally herself, embodying the characteristics her parents instilled in her of being open, honest, vocal and confident, and subduing herself because, while society values those traits, in a black woman they can be viewed negatively.

    Racist stereotypes of black women as aggressive, confrontational, loud, ill-tempered, overbearing and more, mean that black women walk a tightrope of acceptability, where one wobble can bring them down in horrific and unreasonable ways.

    Yeah, not just in the UK. Here, too.
     
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  3. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    #1503 Kryptonite, Jan 23, 2026
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2026
    Tommy Lee Walker exonerated 70 years after execution for rape and murder of Venice Parker

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/tommy-lee-walker-exonerated-70-years-after-execution/story?id=129465114

    Walker, who had no criminal record, maintained his innocence and said that when Parker was killed he was witnessing his girlfriend give birth to his only son -- Edward Smith -- an alibi corroborated during the trial by 10 witnesses, The Innocence Project noted.

    In the absence of forensic and circumstantial evidence, prosecutors relied on an alleged confession that Walker made, according to the group. Walker later recanted his confession, according to the Innocence Project.

    "The only direct evidence connecting Tommy Lee Walker to this offense is a confession obtained through the use of coercive tactics," the court's declaration stated.
     
  4. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Missed a number in the link
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/tommy-lee-walker-exonerated-70-years-after-execution/story?id=129465114
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    400 years of miseducation created that stereotype, a few poorly treated Black folks perpetuated it, and now she has to live it down or become part od it.
     
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  6. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    Christians got to ABC. the link doesn't work anymore.

    Was the victim (the unjustly incarcerated dude) Black and the accuser White? Typical.

    EDIT: nutter's correct link worked.
     
  7. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I fixed it.
     
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  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
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    United States
  9. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It was Latinos who murdered Pretti.

    This isn't a caste system. Or it is, but it works for REAL Spaniards, not the fake ones like Machado.
     
  10. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
    I'd attribute it more like what NWA described in "******** tha Police"

     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This tweet contains an ad for Andy Barr, who is running for Senate in Kentucky. It’s only 30 seconds, but if you’re pressed for time you can skip to :20, where he says it’s not against the law to be white.

    As a North Carolinian who grew up and spent his early adulthood watching Jesse Helms’ ads, this is the most racist ad I’ve ever seen. Someone from Louisiana probably saw something that can top this when David Duke ran for office. Or maybe not.

    https://x.com/barrforsenate/status/2020223445246652664?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^2020226517284843886|twgr^2d4c478fd047372c8e4451346e515a1d74254b1c|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2026/02/the-state-of-the-race-in-the-commonwealth
     
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  12. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Club: San Diego FC
    Jul 2, 2003
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    I’ll take your word for it.
     
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  13. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    You'd be forgiven if you saw that and thought it was a parody of a Republican Nutjob, like Stephen Colbert used to be on The Coal-bear Repor."

    But not in 2026...
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Chicago Fire
    I can’t.
     
  15. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
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  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    And just to show that we haven't gotten big money out of politics like...ever. A Gilded Age cartoon:

    The_Bosses_of_the_Senate_by_Joseph_Keppler.jpg
     
  18. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
    The dog end of a day gone by
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    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    If we survive the age of trump, we should consider constitutional amendments to eradicate this stuff.
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Meh, maybe after 8 years of a Trump of the Left. It's the very least we can give to MAGA.
     
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  20. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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  21. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    American electoral politics have followed a predictable trend since its inception. One party has several decades of dominance where opposition parties tend to move more towards whichever the party of dominance is based in, with it reversing. I expected 2024's election to continue that trend, but failed to account for the change in demographics thanks to health advancements making the electorate older than it's ever been, combined with mass media/the pandemic's effect on Generation Z. I'll give it to Conservatives-->they've waged one hell of a war against trends.

    It just depends. If Democrats make the right structural changes and stop being controlled opposition then the whole game would change. By structural changes I mean removing the filibuster; granting Puerto Rico and DC statehood, lowering the number of people each representative represents by let's say half so instead of representing 700-780k people it goes down to say 380k, and adding seats to the Supreme Court. Would those things be undemocratic? Nah. They would be anti-Republic. They do that? They could be in power for quite awhile.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For those of you who haven’t or won’t watch: Carl answered by talking about specific ethnicities rather than “white” culture. So he spoke of the Scots-Irish warrior culture, and IIRC Italian food. Murphy pointed out that Carl was NOT talking about “white” culture, which makes perfect sense. There is no such thing as “white culture” except as racism. There IS such a thing as Greek-American culture (thank you David Sedaris.). There IS such a thing as Italian-American culture (“in this house, Christopher Columbus is a hero!”). Etc etc etc. But the only “white culture” is when white supremacists try to dress up their evil and stupid ideology with bogus academic/intellectual pretensions.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This isn’t true. There have been several eras of 50-50 politics where no party dominates. We are in one now.

    I think you need to reset your internet identity because whatever it is, the algo is sending you to afactual TikTok’s and YouTube videos. You’re very misinformed.
     

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