Racism - Forever and Always

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Oct 25, 2023.

  1. It's a joy to see the racist regime shoot themselves in their foot.
     
  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    I'm actually looking this not just as this is a report about a Black man, but also a swipe at Cardi B for being his girlfriend.
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I’d be happier if they shot themselves in the head.
     
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  4. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Or the neck...
     
  5. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is "Truman was a Communist and race mixed the War Department to destroy our country."
    -Lt.Col.Homer Simpson Patton,Random Red State National Guard and pig farmer.
     
  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Too soon!
     
  8. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'll try to be sufficiently sorrowful in the future
     
  9. #1437 feyenoordsoccerfan, Nov 11, 2025
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    Hang de foto's van de soldaten die nu "ausgeradierd " worden weer aan de bomen met kopieën van de beide verdwenen panelen . Dit Amerikaans beleid moeten wij niet accepteren
    Hang the photos of the soldiers who are now being "ausgeradierd" on the trees again with copies of the two disappeared panels. We must not accept this American policy
     
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  11. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    Update: hate crime convictions upheld.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory...s-3-127536193?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

    A federal appeals court on Friday upheld the hate crime convictions of three white men who chased Ahmaud Arbery through their Georgia subdivision with pickup trucks before one of them killed the running Black man with a shotgun.

    A three-judge panel of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals took well over a year to rule after attorneys for the defendants urged the judges in March 2024 to overturn the case, arguing the men's history of racist text messages and social media posts failed to prove they targeted Arbery because of his race.

    Federal prosecutors used those posts and messages in 2022 to persuade a jury that Arbery's killing was motivated by “pent-up racial anger.”

    Even if the appeals judges had thrown out their hate-crime convictions, the trio faced no immediate reprieve from prison. That's because they're also serving life terms for murder after being convicted in a Georgia state court.
     
  12. yossarian

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Maybe I'm drawing an incorrect inference, but the article states "took well over a year" like that's uncommon. For most of the circuit courts, that's not an uncommon amount of time to issue an opinion. Civil cases often take even longer.
     
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  13. soccernutter

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    Maybe that is what they were saying, but I read it more for context since it also noted that this was only for the hate crimes, and not the murders.
     
  14. yossarian

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Yeah, they're not going anywhere. I read the opinion, the facts supporting the prosecution's argument they were motivated by racism are pretty despicable. No hesitancy in throwing around the "N" word in all their social media posts.
     
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  15. I wonder why hate isnot considered to be a mental illness.
     
  16. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Too prevalent. Especially in the US.
     
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  17. ceezmad

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    United States
    Remember the Chapelle show skit about Clayton Bigsby, something similar happened in Africa.

     
  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    #1446 Cascarino's Pizzeria, Nov 17, 2025
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    Ezra Klein a P&CE IC?

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    https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8DwEPuA/

    (Klein) Then let me flip that question a bit. Why are we losing?

    (Coates) We’re losing because there are always moments when we lose.

    (Klein) See, that feels very fatalistic to me.

    (Coates) It doesn’t feel fatalistic to me. It feels like the truth. Let me express what I mean.

    I’m Ta-Nehisi Coates, I’m the writer, I’m the individual, right? But I am part of something larger, and I’ve always felt myself as part of something larger. I have a tradition, I have ancestry, I have heritage. What that means is that I do whatever I do within the time that I have in my life, whatever time I’m gifted with, and much of what I do is built on what other people did before them.

    Then, after that, I leave the struggle where I leave it, and hopefully, it’s in a better place. Oftentimes it’s not. That’s the history in fact. And then my progeny, they pick it up, and they keep it going.

    I am descended from people who, in their lifetime, fought with all their might for the destruction of chattel slavery in this country. And they never saw it. They never saw it. In my personal belief system, they died in defeat, in darkness.

    So I guess the privilege that I draw out of this, the honor that I draw out of this, is not that things will necessarily be better in my lifetime, but that I will make the contribution that I am supposed to make.

    The fact of the matter is, as horrifying as the killing of Charlie Kirk was, and as horrifying as the feeling is in this moment, that we are in an era of political violence — and I don’t want to sound flip here. Political violence is the norm for the Black experience in this country. It just is. I don’t even mean like the Malcolm X, Martin Luther King variety of it — which is the norm, too.

    You would be hard-pressed to have a conversation with a Black person in this country who is a descendant of slavery and not have them be able to tell you themselves: Look, my uncle, my grandfather, my great-grandfather, they lived in a small town in Mississippi, in Tennessee, in Alabama, and they got into some sort of dispute with a white man. Either they were lynched or we had to run.

    Political violence runs through us. It is our heritage. Is that good? No. Do we valorize it? Absolutely not. Do we minimize it? Absolutely not.

    But a life free of it is not a thing that’s really in reach in my time.

    https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3584577/ta-nehisi-coates-and-ezra-klein-on-politics-versus
     
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  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first part of the article is about Ernst Tanner being very very sexist.

    The second part is where he’s racist…although from context, maybe it’s more that he’s bigoted against Africans. Not saying that’s better, just different. If this story gets further investigation, I wonder what guys like Mark McKenzie and Nathan Harriel have to say about him.

    But that’s another train that’s almost never late…a sexist asshole is also probably a racist asshole and a homophobic asshole. (Yep, there’s some of that in there too.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/nov/18/philadelphia-union-ernst-tanner-mls-investigation

    Then there’s an anecdote about a youth coach they had who was wildly unqualified, and an asshole. That man, Gartung, is now CEO of an AI startup, thus completing the hat trick of P&CE bugaboos, because of course a CEO in that field would be an abusive charlatan. I’ll spare yall a post in that thread.

    I’m glad I’m not a Philly fan, because if even half of this is true, he’s got to go. But he arguably produces more in his role than anyone in the league…Philly combined FCD’s heyday of youth development with actually winning a couple trophies and coming within an eyelash of winning MLS Cup.
     
  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Bruce Arena was hounded out of town and the whole team blown up because he said something "insensitive" around Richie (snitchie) "the Rat" Williams.

    This guy needs to go. Several repeated incidents, even after going through "sensitivity" training. Lotta good that did.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did he say? I’ve never seen it quoted, I haven’t even seen it characterized, like, sexist remarks, or racist comments, anything like that.

    Nobody posting here knows if he deserved it or not.
     
  22. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't remember where it was posted, but:

    The next time someone says the US isn't a racist country, keep in mind that Americans won't accept health care from a PoC, but we will accept a white rapist as a POTUS.
     
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