Racism - Forever and Always

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by argentine soccer fan, Oct 25, 2023.

  1. It wasnot about the USA. The OP mentioned how in Argentina people talk about non whites and in one stroke sort of claimed it to be the case in northern Europe.
    So fok off with this comment, just read the string of posts about what the talking point was.
    Tipically yank stuff, it's all about me me me yankeeee.
     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    You have any relatives in Donnie's Boer rescue mission? o_O
     
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  3. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    To be fair American history includes North, South and Central...not just the USA. :coffee:
     
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  4. You project American practices from an American environment on a totally different situation and simply suggest it's the same over here.
    Maybe a good idea to learn something about other cultures than the US one?
    First housing.
    Over here to get a house you subscribe by entering on a list of prospect renters (we got non profit social housing corporations). You then get access to houses available soon. Given the housing shortage the longer you're listed, the higher your chance to get invited for a seeing of the house.
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    So let me know how xenophobic identification would be of help in this system we have?
    It doesnot matter what color or religion you have to be able to register as a candidate for a rental home.
    You put in your preferences of what type/sort of house you're looking for and based on your built up registration time you will be alerted if a house in your preferences comes available.
     
  5. ???
     
  6. You're not making things easy by using almost the same words for two completely different things (in the USA).
    Racial identification as in the hate crime (just call it racism without blurring adjectives) and the American census one, which is non existent over here, because of our traumatic experience in the WWII.
    Resistance fighters risked their lives in attempts to destroy our civil registry in our cities.
     
  7. Our universities arenot commercial enterprises like in the USA, and subjected to the whimms of sponsors with huge contributions or susidies that can be subject to the whimms of racists like trvmp.
    You submit your wish to study on a certain university and then they check if your study choice is the right one for you.
    So the hurdles thrown up in the USA setting arenot existing over here.

    So again what's the use of xenophobic identification in this system?
     
  8. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'm not prepared to call him out on that. I don't think it's just fat. If I can be indelicate for a second, that's a specific body type related to where his ancestors come from. IMO, he was always gonna end up looking like a ball with sticks for limbs. The size of the ball was the only variable. It should be more of a surprise that he looked fit into his 30s, pro football or not.
     
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  9. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Congrats. Sadly, the US can't/won't support a system like that. The reward here is income, not necessarily personal enrichment.

    What does this mean? And how do they check to see? By looking at your scores and grades in that area?
     
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  10. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In most European countries there are entrance exams or exams in specific subjects, and anyone who passes is eligible to go to university. The universities are nearly free (or sometimes completely free) compared to even what a state school would cost in the US.

    My cousin's son was a pretty good player, played with the Modena youth team, but never quite made it to the top. As an 18-year-old, he was playing with a Serie C team. I mentioned that he likely could get a scholarship to a US college, but why bother? He ended up going to school in Bologna and still playing with a local Serie C or D team.
     
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  11. https://www.eur.nl/onderwijs/praktische-zaken/toelating
    You can read in here how that works, if you're interested. It uses a translation tool with many languages for non-Dutch.
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  12. Oh, forgot to mention you have to highlight the text you want to translate to see the translation tool!!
     
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  13. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    While that certainly did happen, mostly it was a handful of Spanish men coming in with a land grant, finding a tribe that wants an alliance which was cemented virtually always by marriage or concubinage to one or more high status females.
     
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  14. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Was not is two words in English.
     
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  15. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I argued this with my ex, who grew up in Ecuador. She argued that it was cultural, and how the government could identify a group and provide assistance. I countered with how that identification was made: parents? grandparents? great-grandparents? How many? What were the criteria? Was there anything done, based on that kind of classification, to improve education or employment? How many people in senior government were from a not-White ("Blanco") category? They way I saw it was not from the casual side of things, they way friends would address each other, but from a way that "Blancos" created categories that were either intentionally or unintentionally corrupted. It's about language, and how it is used.
     
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  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple years ago I read a book called Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl. Having read it, their idea of consent is so foreign to what you and I conceive it to be. It was like walking into a room and finding the light fixture on the floor and the chairs and sofa on the ceiling.

    The writer slept with a local white man willingly, but it was only to keep the male head of the household she lived with in at bay, so is that really “willing?” The guy she was having sex with didn’t threaten her and didn’t have any power over her except being the power of an umbrella in a thunderstorm. But he wasn’t the thunderstorm, that was the head of household/dirty old man who kept trying to get her to sleep with him.

    The book is in the public domain so you can get it for free on any e-reader.
     
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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donald Trump has declared that white South Africans are being oppressed and has granted them refugee status.
     
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  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Other Slavery is a recent read of mine, and I learned a lot about that society too.

    https://www.amazon.com/Other-Slaver...0482&sprefix=the+other+slavery,aps,108&sr=8-1
     
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  19. What has that to do with me or with the posts contents being discussed?
     
  20. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Are you off your meds? You’ve been failing to follow the discussion now for a few days.

    Are you ok?
     
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  21. This is the part I reacted too.
    So has nothing to do with what was posted before. This is a stand alone assertion I questioned.
    But don't let that interfere with putting in insults.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The most racist white South Africans are the Boers, who have Dutch heritage.

    I wouldn’t take Casc’s posts too seriously. He’s just trying to be funny.
     
  23. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, generally speaking, the Afrikaners are more racist than anyone else (not that there are degrees of racism). They see themselves as being historically persecuted by the English speakers, who pushed them further inland away from the coastal areas. There was the whole Boer war in the early 1900s and for a long time it was common for Afrikaners to refer to their clashes with the English when it came to "racial strife."

    There was a group of Afrikaners who had a flag that was exactly like a Nazi flag, except the swastika only had 3 prongs instead of 4.
     
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  24. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Yeah and that charisma translated into tremendous leadership qualities.

    Messi is the most talented in history but he only won with stacked teams. On the other hand, Maradona made it a habit of lifting average and mediocre teams to glory.
     
  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    C'mon, Dutchie. You haven't heard of the Boerlin Airlift that Donnie's doing?

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