Racism - Forever and Always

For me, Maradona was the bigger genius, but Messi got more out of his talent.

As for the race/class issue, I always thought of Messi as a typical Argentine from the middle class. My understanding is that his father was a factory manager, not an owner. I've had many, many Argentine friends ( My son's best friend is Argentine, and he's like family ) and aquaintances in different shades and ethnic backgrounds, and the shade of skin color didn't command what social class they were. Some I've met from the higher class and Buenos Aires in particular, would sometimes be more likely to have an attitude about race. But in all fairness, this is not something that is particular to white upper class Argentines in Latin America, it's just that they have a higher percentage of these folks.

When I was a high schooler my mom had an Argentine friend who would always rag on the indigenous types of the other latin-american countries. Until we pointed out that I had some Argentine class mates that were pure indigenous background. She nervously said, "they must be "Mendozinos'", as if that didn't make them Argentinian.

Yup. I have some Argentine friends that that have twin boys. One is light skinned and green eyes and European features, the other more like Riquelme or Passarella.

 

This is accurate for all of the Americas for White Folks

 

You've been out of there longer than a month. There's no need for this kind of statement.

That's disgusting. Shame on all of them, and on you for not joining me in absolute condemnation. I didn't quote you on most of this because I kind of knew you'd deflect thru explanation. There is no suitable explanation, sorry

 

At some point this nation decided to forget the existence of the one-drop rule. That great-grandma who never would explain their origins is just a footnote, if that.

 

Fair enough.

That said, I was making a point about what a word is supposed to mean to Argentines who have made it out. Becoming a man and putting away childish things, so to speak...

 

You're speaking in the past tense. That didn't really happen, you know. It probably will eventually, lol

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Knowing their origins doesn't change how they'll be classified, starting around puberty. Certain institutions and relationships will be off-limits to them from that point forward.

 

What has this to do with racism?
If an Argentine player is white or black, he's referred to as Argentinian. Why on earth would we address him as by way of his colour?
You can dig in the Dutch press and find they never in the decades we wrote about Maradonna it ever was about his skin.
I find it perplexing this is even an issue in the USA.
In all the years Brasilian players like Romario and Ronaldo etc. played in the Netherlands, nobody mentions their skin color or lack of it.
The USA really is some place and things like this make me understand completely Auriaprottu when he's on edge overthere.
It's American second nature I learned about the USA that skin color issues is just a blink away to pop up.

 

In my hometown of Cochabamba, you call a boyfriend or girlfriend a negro or negra no matter their skin color. Their is just a general pressumption that none of us are 100% European. Of course, in Latin America, most of the colonizers were men who married in to the native ruling class so in our case it's absolutely valid.

I suppose so. Latin Americans think a bit different as I noted above.

 

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Some liberals have a problem when they speak about race, namely:

1. They insist race is a social construct BUT
2. They don’t understand that it’s going to be society dependent, context dependent

Me, I agree with #1. Except for rare situations like if you’re talking about sunscreen and Vitamin D, or sickle cell anemia, things like that, race is wholly a social construct, and so it’s very context dependent, ergo lecturing Argentinians about Argentine culture is pretty dumb.

 

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First you got a weird perception of racism=identificating by race.
In my book racism is negatively categorizing people by their skin/looks.
I think you're transferring American customs to the Netherlands.
Racial identification etc. is banned from official documentation/administration, because in WWII the nazi scum used our perfect administration to find our Jewish citizens. After the war all descriptions of race and religion were scrapped.
And in normal day to day interactions I can't imagine what situations you need racial identification.
You're using your American attitude as a template for the rest of the world.
Just tell me how/in what way one uses racial identification in normal day life.

 

When in the USA, you better be vegetarian with all those grow hormones infested beef and chlorified chicken.
Messi knows this, apparently.

 

You know what's even dumber? Inserting yourself into an exchange not knowing that at least one of the people involved is discussing and has been discussing events that took place outside the country of the perp's origin. Remember what I typed about travel and evolution? <Mister Rogers> Of course you do </M. Rogers> I'm not faulting the ones who never git outa th' holler, so to speak. They're a lost cause. I'm faulting the ones who bring th' holler to the city. If you had my moral standards, you'd be doing the same. But you don't.

Nice backhanded try, though, since you're too much of a little bitch to quote me.

You study my posts daily, grasshopper, but you them lose your notes while you're out roller skating, and that results in errors of judgement. Like the Trumpe O' The Lefte thread you started.

 

Eusebio

 

Don't be Mbappe getting schooled on this.

 

See Edwin Gorter.

 

Only in chains or as a curiousity, and they rarely were ever afforded a trip home...

 

The foundation of the United States is not religious freedom as the American Mythology would have us believe, no it is that the White European Settler descendants will always be the top 3 classes and everyone else should be grateful they're allowed to exist.

In the US - YTfolx either hate anyone darker than them, doesn't speak to them in clear, but submissive English, or fetishizes them...

 

Perhaps you should read some American history.