Racism - Forever and Always

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  1. Another Dutch name with an Arabic first name:
    Amira Willighagen, Arabic name meaning princess.
     
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    Yara Arabic name meaning little butterfly.
     
  3. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I know I Ghanian names Neil Vanderpuye and my 2nd cousin is Paul Schandorf.
     
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  4. For a "white flight" in naming there must be some weird awareness of names being used in a community/social stratum/residential_racially defined areas. How does this come about? Is someone tallying that in a certain way or are these numbers released by way of the segregative set up of your census by race?
    We Dutch have no way to know what names are in use by any group, because of the dumping of those racial/ethnical/religious/political information after the nazi hords used our perfect census to hunt down people they wanted to exterminate.
    Can't imagine in the UK etc. this "white flight" in naming occurs too.
     
  5. So what's the next "white flight" item to pursue?
    "white flight" in jobs/occupations?
     
  6. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    I'm going to give you a bit of advice that sometimes even the decent Whites are morally incapable of adhering to without consulting their own tainted experiences and psyches.

    Just trust the American POCs you read here* on this. We're the ones getting run from.

    *except ceezmad, he's Whiter than the rest of us
     
  7. roby

    roby Member+

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    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    :D
     
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  8. Don't understand the criticism of my question.
     
  9. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Not only was there a Maynard G Krebs on the 3 hour tour but also Thurston Howell III and his wife Lovey. :geek:

    Ps...Who can forget Ginger and "All day All night" Mary Ann! :whistling:
     
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  10. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a rather complicated pair of questions. Regarding the first, there is a level of assimilation that occurs, but how and why and by whom and for what purpose is very, very complicated. It also gets into education, region of the US, socio-economic status, profession of parents, political leanings, etc, all or in parts.
    Regarding the second question, we identify race for a number of reasons. Unlink most countries, particularly in Europe, we have a federal (dual governing) system of national laws and state laws. Historically, states have passed many racist laws, mostly intentionally but not always, and getting the data from the census on race is one way our national government has been able to prove discrimination. But, again, it is very, very complicated.

    Quite the opposite, here. We have had Nazis (think KKK/White Supremacists) in government here since the beginning. We have used the racial/ethnic/religious data to try and reduce the acts of those people. But, then, we have Trump so the danger has grown.

    Names everywhere change. There are some which become more popular or less popular over time for any number of reasons. But, I would suspect that a form of "White flight" in names does exist in the UK. Probably not to the extent it does in the US, but likely.
     
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  11. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    That's been happening for decades and it's happening in Europe as well.

    Low paying, blue collar service jobs like restaurant work, cleaning, babysitting, retail, construction, etc., are fast becoming nonwhite jobs. Especially in big cities. Poor, white, urban neighborhoods don't really exist in the US anymore. The few poor whites that live in big cities live in majority Black or Latino neighborhoods.

    The rural areas are a different story.
     
  12. So the last "white flight resort" remaining is the creation of an apartheid state.
     
  13. russ

    russ Member+

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    We prefer to call it restoration of the natural order of society, thank you very much.
    -Councilwoman Matilda "Babs" Gordon,Twatwaffle, TX.
    Owner,Babs' Bake Shop and Trump Store
     
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  14. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

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    Ghana
    It's not criticism. It is that as you try to understand American Sociology and culture, just remember that PoC and our interpretation of things is usually more accurate than white Americans.
     
  15. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Honestly, we don't really think about y'all's names that much...

    Or y'all, at all
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
  17. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    What the ********..... Seriously Virginia? Reading the article, I found this gem from a white dude (obviously) supporting the name change back. The amount of self delusion is pretty stunning.


    One of the people leading the charge to restore the schools' names is Mike Scheibe, a father of two students at Ashby Lee and Civil War re-enactor, who is also the spokesperson for the Coalition for Better Schools, a local organisation that campaigned for the school board to change the names back.

    "When I look at Robert E Lee, the comparisons to him and George Washington are immense," he said, noting Washington also owned slaves.

    "I wonder when George Washington's name and things like that will then have to come off of things."

    "But to be taught that everyone who fought for the Confederacy, or did this, or did that, is a racist slave holder, that's all or nothing, and that really isn't doing history justice," he added.
     
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  18. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Yeah, I got inspired to write in the education thread but I will respond here. This must be a result of conservatives taking over school boards. I just want to know how many schools were named for failed German leaders of WW1 or WW2 or Japan. It is typical white people who support racism but don't have balls to say it except in private company.
     
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  19. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only schools in the US that are named for vanquished foes are those bearing the names of Confederates or Indians
     
  20. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Somebody should suggest renaming the high school to Nat Turner High School.
     
  21. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    that would be glorification of violence
     
  22. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Well, woke glorification of violence. The other type is okay.
     
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  23. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ghana
    Benedict Arnold doesn't have a school either.
     
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  24. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Neither does Fredrick Douglas. I hear he's doing a lot of good things these days.
     
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  25. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Chicago Fire
    That would be a good name for every high school named after a confederate figure, though. Change them all to that.
     
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