Racism - Forever and Always

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  1. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Christians are the worst at this with Muslims a bit better. None of the other major religions come close with their evangelizing.
     
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  2. Auriaprottu

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    Hadn't thought of that. I did grades 1-3 at religious schools (1 & 2 S-DA, 3 Catholic).
     
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  3. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

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    The thing about some Christian Evangelists is the "well, that's different" syndrome.

    This guy was talking about how important it was to "share the gospel" with everyone. I asked him, what if he lived in Japan where almost everyone is Shinto or Buddhist. Sure, he'd find his Christian community, since that's obviously important to him, but what if some guy started telling him all about how Buddha is the only true path to enlightenment? He'd probably say, "thanks, but I'm a Christian, and I'm fine with my faith as it is." Or he'd start arguing that Jesus could win a cage match against Buddha, since he's in much better shape...:ROFLMAO:

    So why can't you respect a Muslim, Jew, Hindu, etc. who is fine with their own religion and is not open to converting to another religion?
     
  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Apr 29, 2001
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    I'm pretty amazed Mormons & other missionaries don't get their asses kicked more often
     
  5. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
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    Yes yes let the hate flow through you
     
  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    I don't belong to an Evangelical church, bud.
     
  7. superdave

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    As you’ve shown there’s more than one way to hate
     
  8. Non of the churches/religions have.
     
  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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  10. Auriaprottu

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    Yet they'll still be perennial contenders for the ACC
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    The endowments of elite institutions have grown so much that financial need is rarely a burden anymore. If the money is being repurposed from being race based to being income based, then what’s the problem? That some AME buppies will have to pay more for Jaden to go to college while some Thelma Sue from Bug Tussle’s parents pay less?
     
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  12. Auriaprottu

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    #362 Auriaprottu, Apr 21, 2024
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    I know a few Black Duke grads from this town. They're much more like me than like your hypothetical Jaden.

    Waitwaitwait... North Carolina must be some kind of educational bonanza. In most states, Thelma Sue goes to community college if she goes at all. She ain't going to Duke in any case.
     
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  13. soccernutter

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    The rise of charter schools has likely significantly helped this.

    Which Buddha are you talking about - the Indian or the Chinese?

    Go take a sensitivity pill.
     
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  14. soccernutter

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    Two points - what ever one thinks of Duke, they do have a rather good medical program. This just makes it harder for poor Black students to rise to the level of self-sufficiency.
    And how is the rest of North Carolina doing?
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/us/d...ixed-reaction-from-former-scholars/index.html

    Earlier this week, the University of North Carolina’s Board of Governors, voted to repeal and replace the school’s existing diversity and inclusion policy. The board oversees 16 public universities and one high school in the state.

    The new policy – which goes to the full board for a final vote in May – will emphasize the university’s commitment to “non-discrimination and institutional neutrality,” Andrew Tripp, senior vice president for legal affairs for the university and board of governors, said during a committee meeting.

    So, I guess we are equal now.
     
  15. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
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    I thought both your parents were teachers? Anyway, let’s say for illustrative purposes that you were working class or poor. What I’m saying is that in that case, for most of these elite schools including Duke, almost everyone gets all the need based aid they need. So a 17 year old Auria would then get need based financial aid.

    The paradigm you and I grew up with, a world where black Americans had very little access to middle class jobs outside the black community, those days are over and have been for a generation. Folks like you and Casc need to update your priors, as the kids say. When Yall assume a world where it’s still 1980, you’re going to lose your argument with everyone else, everyone whose calendars are up to date.
     
  16. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
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    My point in the post was that they’re covered by and based financial aid. So you are wrong here. It will just mean that upper middle class black families who send their kids to Duke will have to pay white upper middle class black families pay.
    1. You should start a thread on this new topic then.
    2. The new policy is because the Supreme Court outlawed the old policy as being reverse racism. IOW this isn’t an action the state is doing on its own.
     
  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    We have overcome, per Dave!

    The enrolled student population at Duke University is 41.1% White, 13.9% Asian, 7.67% Hispanic or Latino, 7.17% Black or African American, 4.54% Two or More Races, 0.289% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.0624% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders.
     
  18. superdave

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    If the student body is 41% white, Dook obviously isn’t practicing white supremacy or is really shitty at it. Thanks for citing facts to support my interpretation of the impact of losing this scholarship…it likely represents money moving from race based to poverty based. QED.
     
  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Nobody said they were.
     
  20. Auriaprottu

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    College profs, yeah.

    That's a lot of typing to say you ignored what the guy in the video tried to tell you, and are on some other shit. You can believe what you want to about the present. What we can earn is irrelevant, don't know why that was your focus.

    We've all tried to be helpful around here, but folks like you and Marek are stubborn types...
     
  21. Auriaprottu

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    Remember when MitH used to say that nonsense? It's not even halftime.
     
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  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Stop bitching, Blacks. Dook provides those good jobs.

    Mark Anthony Neal, the James B. Duke Distinguished Professor of African and American Studies at the university, says Duke “has long had the reputation of being a ‘plantation’ in Durham,’ [as] the city’s largest employer.”

    “For many Black residents, Duke isn’t a world-renowned university, but simply the place they go to work, and where they might in fact feel undervalued and underpaid,” Neal wrote in an email to the INDY.

    Duke’s relationship with race is encapsulated by the efforts of Julian Abele, the Black architect who designed more than 30 buildings on the campus, including the Allen Building and the iconic Duke Chapel. But Abele was never allowed to set foot inside the storied sanctuary after it was completed in 1935.

    Of course, the Allen building was the site of a Black student occupation in 1969, at the height of the Black Power movement. In 2016, Duke honored Abele’s lasting contributions by naming the campus’s busiest quadrangle the “Abele Quad.”

    Also in 2016, nine Duke students took to the Allen building to demand better treatment for the university’s Black workers, prompting administrators to pay all university employees the city of Durham’s official living wage of $12.35 an hour. A year later, Duke raised its minimum wage to $13 an hour, and then to $15 in 2019

    https://indyweek.com/news/durham/race-relations-at-duke/
     
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  23. Deadtigers

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    That is a typo. It must be 71.1 or this the new math they keep telling me about
     
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  24. Auriaprottu

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    It has to be. No way Duke is only 41% White. Plus, the numbers don't add up in any way. Not with 51, 61 or 71%.
     
  25. chaski

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