Racial and Gender Report Card (Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport)

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by Knave, Apr 29, 2003.

  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    There was an article about this report among the daily news items on the MLS board. It took a little digging but I found the report itself. The link is below.

    While MLS gets high marks in some areas in comparison to other sports (a B+ in race, for instance) it also gets an F on gender.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/29/national/main551488.shtml

    I haven't really had a chance to look at the numbers but I wonder about the numbers that led to that grade. My real suspicion is that MLS has a small administrative staff in comparison to other sports so their numbers are thrown off by small changes. I also noticed that MLS seems to have cut their adminstrative staff in half since 2000 (Table 12). Again, that might account for the drops - especcially if women were occupying positions in MLS that no longer exist. (Though, I suppose that's notable too.)

    Here's the link to the 2003 Racial and Gender Report Card mentioned above.

    http://www.bus.ucf.edu/sport/public/downloads/media/ides/2003_racial_gender_report_card.pdf

    The article above is now being reprinted elsewhere. I think all the information contained in it is actually from this press release.

    http://www.bus.ucf.edu/sport/public...03_rgrc_reveals_weakened_hiring_practices.pdf
     
  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Woo Hoo! Now maybe misogynistic rednecks will flock to league matches in record number!!!
     
  3. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    You know I'm going to get real mad if I find out that the other leagues get more points because they have cheerleaders. Additionally, no other league has to deal with the fact that they have a women's league that is a COMPETITOR. Apples and oranges.
     
  4. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Martha will be showing up soon.
     
  5. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    So much for soccer being a women's sport.
     
  6. Thomas Flannigan

    Feb 26, 2001
    Chicago
    I broke out laughing when I read this in the paper. Press releases from feminist pressure groups are often reprinted without question as to methodology or agenda. Do a google news search after one of these missives hits the presses and you will see what I mean. Newspaper after newspaper reprints the press release under their own byline, with minor modification.
    I think this "study" is way off base. It gives the NBA an A for diversity, even though it is perhaps the least diverse pro league. The NBA is 92% black. That does not sound too diverse to me. It is however a meritocracy; the best players get drafted. I think most Americans would like to see merit count for more than diversity, but that is not always the case.
    Giving the MLS an F shows the hostility some feminists have towards men's soccer. Nothing is more politically incorrect than men playing soccer. Not long ago, folks posted an article claiming that the MLS was the most female-friendly of the men's leagues, attractive 39 per cent female fans. Anyone who has gone to an MLS game has probably seen lots of soccer moms and families, young girls who play in youth leagues and so on. Why give the MLS an F when other pro leagues attract far fewer female fans and employ a smaller percentage of female staff?
    Just my opinions.
     
  7. Dignan23

    Dignan23 Member+

    Jul 6, 2001
    Fort Vancouver, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    5.....4......3.......2......
     
  8. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    Someone here's missing more points than Liverpool in December...
     
  9. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it just me or does everyone else get the Ivillage adds on this thread. Eriee
     
  10. Thomas Flannigan

    Feb 26, 2001
    Chicago
    People interested in this issue may want to pick up a copy of a new book: "Diversity, the Invention of a Concept." by Peter Wood. He writes about various think tanks and their goals and has some very interesting conclusions. I have just started reading it.
     
  11. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC

    Can you wait until you're finished to pimp it? Or do you already know what it's going to say because it follows your own predescribed ideology?
     
  12. Thomas Flannigan

    Feb 26, 2001
    Chicago
    I am not tyring to "pimp" it. If people are interested in this thread they may be interested in the book. It was favorably reviewed in the Wall Street Journal, which is not necessarily a good thing in my book! From the early going it seems he claims that diversity has drawn even with merit and other virtues. It is a heavy book with zillions of footnotes, so I can't promise that I will finish it!
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You guys don't want to do this. Trust me, you don't want to do this.

    Hey, how 'bout those Cubs?
     
  14. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean we don't want to overanalyze an academic report about the business world put together by someone who probably hasn't held a job that doesn'y include summers off in 30 years?
     
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, I mean you don't want to get someone started.
     
  16. Malaga CF fan

    Malaga CF fan Member

    Apr 19, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like a load of subjective crap... The NFL received a D- for a score of 58.7 for gender while the MLS got an F with a score of 57.4. So where do they drawn the line for an F, 58.0? The only reason that this has any bearing on anything is that this may give some negative pub on the league, making it look inferior to the other leagues. I wonder why they didn't take a look at the WUSA?
     
  17. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Interesting to learn that two of MLS's head coaches in 2002 were counted as minorities. Zambrano and who else?

    Incidentally, MLS gets an "A" for having 96% female support staff, while the NBA gets an "A+" for having 78% minority players.
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Clavijo?

    Unless they count Frank Yallop since he's a Canadian. ;)
     
  19. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
    Does this mean that the league is going to adopt the asinine approach to diversity that the NFL has, i.e. a quota on minority interviews for coaching vacancies?

    I deficate on this report.
     
  20. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    And Steve Nicol.

    Fat Sigi maybe? Is the Hutt species a minority?
     
  21. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
  22. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    I can't help but feel sorry for all the white men who may lose their jobs because of this biting research. Is anyone thinking about the women and minorities that will be affected if these guys lose their job?

    I knew Carol Mosely Braun was more qualified than Dave Sarachan for the Fire's head coaching position, but I just didn't speak up. I could have made a difference!
     
  23. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the WNBA gets a A+++ for all the black lesbians that they employ.
     
  24. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, so we're not allowed to talk amongst ourselves.

    Grow the ************ up, Andy.
     

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