[R] Revs - Crew

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by The Perfesser, Oct 6, 2002.

  1. The Perfesser

    The Perfesser New Member

    May 23, 1999
    AthensGA/NewburyptMA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can anyone do pxp?

    Anybody want to go to the chat room for those of us in the wilderness?
     
  2. louisb

    louisb New Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Boston, MA
    I gotcha perf and anyone else that want to join. Home sick all weekend, just turning the computer on. 1st half wasn't all that memorable.

    This seems a bit silly. Kind of like something we'd be doing in the mid-80s :)
     
  3. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I'm trying to listen to the game on the radio, but it isn't working. Anyone know why?

    According to the Crew web site, the location is:

    http://www.eagle1039.com/Eagle1039live.asx

    But I'm not able to connect.
     
  4. The Perfesser

    The Perfesser New Member

    May 23, 1999
    AthensGA/NewburyptMA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tried about 5 times and finally got it at the start of halftime. It's been on for 20 minutes without any "drops".

    Jack Edwards (of all people) is doing pxp subbing for Dwight Burgess.
     
  5. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: [R] Revs - Crew

    That's odd. I'm listening to it right now. For what it's worth, it's 0-0 at around 48'.
     
  6. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA
    0-0 51st minute.

    Torres (for the Crew) is showing WHY he has been on the bench for some time... he's been a liability as soon as he has entered the pitch.

    The Revs better find an answer for Cunningham. QUICKLY ;)
     
  7. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA
    No score, 59th minute.

    Crew knocking on door, but not able to convert so far.

    Someone better tell Kante NOT to set up Cunningham for goal scoring opportunities :p
     
  8. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    This is a great game. It's being played at a great pace and both teams look sharp on the attack. Seems to be a stalemate of chances. Who will crack first?
     
  9. deedougie

    deedougie Member

    Jul 5, 2000
    OAK,CA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the updates!
     
  10. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    Revs have had some open net chances as well as some last minue saves on defense. C-Bus just headed away a shot on goal after Heaps shot hit the post and rebounded back to him.
     
  11. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA
    73rd minute, no score.

    Revs just missed TWO GOLDEN chances at a goal, a ball off the post and then the follow up shot fired right at a Crew defender who was standing on the goal line.

    Crew attack faltering now, and the Revs looking to punish Columbus for not finishing their earlier chances.
     
  12. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    Revs seem to be making a real push since the 70th minute.

    Taylor just went down in an awkward fall. May be serious.
     
  13. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    Kante got hit with second yellow. Revs down to 10 men.

    BTW, Chacon came on for Wolde Harris early in the second half.
     
  14. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    LOL! Cloutier on for Chacon, in what the commentators estimate is a defensive move due to being down a man.
     
  15. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA
    Brian Hall is a complete piece of crap.

    Cunningham is FOULED, inside the box as well as outside, and the foul called outside the box.

    Hernandez with a tackle from behind on McBride, gets nothing. McBride bumps him 2 minutes later, and gets a yellow card.

    Riiiiiiiiight.
     
  16. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    92 minute McBride just misses high, barely interfered with by Heaps.
     
  17. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA
    End of regulation, still no score.

    An overall good game so far, both teams with very good chances.
     
  18. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    Overtime, and unfortunately I have to step out.
     
  19. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, if the admit that the foul started outside the box, then that's where it's supposed to be spotted.

    Sorry, but Hernadez got his yellow card, which he deserved. And McBride didn't "bump" him afterwards. He chopped him down late after the ball was gone. He deserved his yellow as well.

    I think Hall had a very good match. The only decision I disagreed on was that I think Kante's foul should have been a straight red card. Luckily, he already had a yellow, so it really didn't matter.
     
  20. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    I agree with what you say above but in my opinion, it was a clear takedown in the box after the initial foul on Kante..

    Obviously advantage was being played by Hall at that point but Kante did foul him again in the box..

    Why wouldn't a PK be called? What would have happened if Adin Brown had come out and taken Cunningham out? Would Hall have moved it back to where Cunningham was originally fouled? I seriously doubt it..

    It is possible to be fouled twice while playing advantage and this was a clear cut case in where Jeff was hauled down while still having the advantage.. Why punish the attacking team?

    For what it's worth, I don't really care which team makes it onto the final, I'm just talking about what I saw from an objective point of view..

    I think Columbus was done an injustice on that particular play.. I'm not saying it was the difference in the game, especially with all the saved PK's I've been seeing over the last 6 months, but it clearly helped the Revolution in staying level at a critical point in the match...
     
  21. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think everyone agrees that there was a foul outside the box. The question that needs to be asked, and what Hall has to ask himself, is whether or not there were two separate fouls (one outside the box, where he played advantage, and then one inside the box), or if it was one continuous foul.

    If it was one continuous foul, and the advantage never materialized, then the free kick is brought back to the sport where the foul originated, which was outside of the box. If you agree that it was a continuous foul, then Hall got it right.

    If it were two separate fouls though, meaning that the advantage materialized and then was taken away again, then a PK is the correct call. If you think that's the case, then Hall got it wrong.

    Now, if anyone thinks that that decision is easy, especially at full-speed while you're 10-15 yards behind the players, then I urge you to take up refereeing. Hall made a tough, split-second decision and he didn't waver. While I'd be hard-pressed to prove that he was 100% correct, anyone else would be equally hard-pressed to prove he's 100% wrong. It wasn't one of those bad calls that people chalking up to being a "break" for the other team, it was truly a 50/50 call that's still hard to determine what was actually 'correct'.
     
  22. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    I do feel that Hall got it wrong..

    Cunningham fought off Kante's physical challenge all the way until he was at least 2 or 3 steps into the area.. At that point Kante took him down and the "advantage" was negated..

    I do agree that the call is a very difficult one to make in theory but this one seemed very clear cut to me.. Cunningham worked harder to get to an advantagous position and was hauled down clearly inside the area.. A PK should have been awarded.. Perhaps Hall wasn't in the best position to make the call and that is Hall's fault and it ended up giving the "advantage" in the end to the Revs..

    I think Brian Hall is a goof ref (by MLS standards) and just made a bad call.. It's not the first time in a big match that he has missed a PK call (Moreno being tripped quite clearly by Marcus Hanneman in MLS Cup 97") and it won't be the last.. I would bet that if Hall has a chance to review the tape of the incident (which he most undoubtedly will), he would probably feel that the Crew were denied a PK chance.. Of course he would never state it on record..

    All in all though a quite entertaining game as far as 0-0 draws go..

    Looking forward to Wednesday nights rematch..
     
  23. 3stripe

    3stripe Member

    Indy Eleven
    Oct 14, 2001
    Brickyard Battalion
    there's no reason he should still be here next season.
     
  24. 3stripe

    3stripe Member

    Indy Eleven
    Oct 14, 2001
    Brickyard Battalion
    you're wrong.
     
  25. glennmcdonald

    glennmcdonald Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Estonia
    Hernandez and Kante both out next time, right?

    Kante is out from the red card, obviously, but Hernandez's yellow should take him over 11 and earn him a game suspension as well. And Joey's next one takes him over...
     

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