Alert: [R] Arsenal versus Everton, March 21, 4 pm

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  1. R9Kevinr9

    R9Kevinr9 Member+

    Feb 2, 2007
    ATX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Mega shout out to the CB's today. They were massive. Hell, the back four in general were great. Everton is always a tough team to play against at The Goodison so regardless how sloppy we looked at times I'm really pleased we won. This team is growing with every game. I just hope it carries on to next season.

    ps. Sorry for 3 straight posts.
     
  2. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    I know I'm biased, but I don't see how you can be that close to the goal and not be active. He is drawing attention from 2 players who could potentially tackle/block a shot and distracting the keeper from being in the best position.

    Also, in the prem, do linesmans use their flag to indicate which (near, far, middle) player is offside giving the ref a chance to overrule wrt to active/passive.
     
  3. WoodDraw

    WoodDraw Member+

    May 29, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not offside until the player becomes actively involved. And players are constantly in an offside position while not being involved in play, for loads of different reasons. The linesman was just shit.
     
  4. Copperhead

    Copperhead Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Decent result. Got very lucky with the disallowed goal but what really worries me is that I'm one of those people who believes that things kind of equal each other out. So, I'm just waiting for the misfortune to come around. However, Arsenal have had plenty of misfortunes so maybe that was payback.
     
  5. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    yes
     
  6. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    hahaha. this post said it all for me.
     
  7. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I have often thought this, though it's not how the rule is written so I don't expect them to call it.
     
  8. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, but you could also argue that if Mason wasn't so inept, we would've been given a PK on Drenthe's thigh-hook takedown of Rosicky.

    And also, I agree with kanonier and crazy. I realize here that the AR probably just effed up and was calling Drenthe offside, but I don't see how Jelavic can be considered "passive" in that situation. Again, I realize that he probably was passive based on how the rule is currently interpreted, but, IMHO, I guy in the box, in front of the keeper, and possibly drawing defenders to him like that, should be considered offside.
     
  9. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Hey, a win is a win. At this stage of the season,
    those 3 pts were sweet manna from Heaven.

    BRING ON VILLA!
     
  10. generals soccer

    Feb 7, 2006
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes and no. FIFA rules stipulate that when an AR indicates offside they hold their flag downward (on a diagonal) for an infringement on the near side, parallel to the ground for something in the middle, and raised on the diagonal for the far side.

    The issue is this is only done once the ref acknowledges the offense as indicated by the AR lifting their flag straight up. So in that sense, the ref could not look over and see what side the offense occurred, only once he has blown for the call if that makes sense.
     
  11. KevTheGooner

    KevTheGooner Help that poor man!

    Dec 10, 1999
    THOF
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra
    Great to see us grind out a result. I loves me a clean sheet away from home.
     
  12. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    pourqoi?
     
  13. LAgooner05

    LAgooner05 Member

    Feb 22, 2010
    Orange County
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    They already equaled out. This is Karma for that offside goal Saha scored against last year at the emirates. We came from behind that night and won 2-1, and I remember officiating was pretty bad against us.
     
  14. Copperhead

    Copperhead Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Colorado Springs, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll see. I don't refer back to last season to try to equal out. Too easy to make myself comfortable.
     
  15. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then how about it equaling out 35 minutes later in the same match?
     
  16. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    What if Drenthe had been called for the foul in the box, Arsenal would have had a pk. What if the goal was allowed to stand and it increased the Arsenal's energy, while Everton relaxed at 1-1. Bad calls do go both ways and what ifs are pure speculation.
     
  17. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    does anyone really think that was a PK??
    i saw it and thought, no chance.. rosicky was looking for it if i'm honest.
     
  18. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought it was in real time and after seeing replays. The announcers thought so too after seeing the replays. Arseblogger thought it was. So did the Untold Referees blog.
     
  19. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    you, the announcers, arseblogger, and the untold referees blog are all incorrect.
     
  20. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No worries, I think the same thing about your opinion.
     
  21. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    it's not my opinion.. i'm sorry, was a penalty given?? who took it?
    if it wasn't, then there wasn't a penalty.
    what am i missing here yoss?
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're looking for an argument, I'll be glad to oblige. Quite simply you have the opinion that the ref's decision NOT to call a PK was correct. I disagree.

    Are you able to comprehend that or do you wish to continue playing semantics games?
     
  23. voltman

    voltman Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    And thus Everton were offside because it was given.
     
  24. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boom!
     
  25. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    the prudent comment would be "if the ref wasn't so inept, he would of given us a clear cut penalty".

    thanks for playing.
     

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