Question about stadium?

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Dennishz, Jun 7, 2003.

  1. Dennishz

    Dennishz Member

    Aug 8, 2002
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a question about the HDC and hope to get a response from everyone without getting ripped apart. I have never been to a stadium in europe but from what I have seen on television, it seems like the fans are right on top of the action and on field level. When I was watching the LA/COL match the only thing I could really see was about a ten foot green wall. It sort of remined of an NFL staduim that have six to ten foot walls surrounding the field. Other than the wall I thought every thing about the HDC was fabulous. But my question is, is it better when the best seats are at field level, similar to Old Trafford, or is better when the best seats are 10 feet above field level like the HDC?
     
  2. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's better for the fans. If the seats go down to field level the view for the first 10 or so rows wouldn't be, IMHO, very good.
     
  3. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO.. If you are any lower and closer than what you saw today at the Galaxy's stadium, you can't follow the action well enough. The view was fantastic today and I went all over the place before the match checking.
    Also only a few get those first seats. The majority in any stadium are not in the front rows, of course.
    Anyway, I've watched matches from the sidelines as you mentioned and it's just not the best view.
    They did a fantastic job at the stadium in Carson.
    You'll have to visit it and you'll know yourself.
     
  4. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Charlotte, NC
    the wall is only like 5 feet
     
  5. gswitatrophy

    gswitatrophy Member

    Jan 16, 2003
    Tillamook, Oregon
    i was there and in a corner 4 rows up and u were right on top of the action. simon elliots first corner i yelled lets go simon and he applauded me so thats how close i was. i also told spencer that bald midget that he sucks and im sure he heard me too. yeah i was even a little low at times to see fishes goals and the corners on the opposite ends. all in all its a bad arse stadium.
     
  6. Azabache

    Azabache Member

    Nov 22, 1998
    Essex Co.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What are the dimensions of the field?
     
  7. KoRnNutZ1320

    KoRnNutZ1320 Member

    Oct 15, 2002
    Garden Grove, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I THINK its about 117x82

    i THINK tahts what i heard... i'm pretty positive on the 82, not so sure about the 117
     
  8. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to the LOTG the maximum width is 75m or 80 yds.
     
  9. CrazyF.C.

    CrazyF.C. New Member

    Jun 15, 2001
    Washington D.C.
    yea, the wall sucks. not so much for the fans at the game, but for tv the wall sucks because instead of having fans in the shot, you get a big green wall. its the only thing keeping the stadium from being absolutely perfect. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed but nothings perfect I guess.
     
  10. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Plenty of stadiums in Europe where you see running track or sometimes walls.
     
  11. CrazyF.C.

    CrazyF.C. New Member

    Jun 15, 2001
    Washington D.C.
    right, and they aren't heralded as the best stadiums in the world. I'm just saying that if they had wanted to make the stadium perfect they would have gotten rid of the wall.
     
  12. PZ

    PZ Member

    Apr 11, 1999
    Michiana
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think width can be anywhere from 70 to 100 wide. Or something like that anyway.
     
  13. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the max for international matches. For any old match, the laws say the field can be up to 100 yds wide.
     
  14. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are correct sir, I should have double-checked before posting. Sorry.
     
  15. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My 2003 LOTG has the width as 50-100 yards wide and 70-82 yards wide for internationals.
    100-130 yards long and 109-120 yards long for internationals.
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    We'll get rid of the wall, have the front row at field level, then give you two seats behind the team bench.

    You won't see a thing.

    There's no "wall", that's an optical illusion. The fans are above the field, that allows them to "be on top of it" and overlook things like photographers (hi!), signboards, ballkids, players, TV cameras, etc...

    The fans are no farther away from the field than other stadiums, and they are in a much better situation to see the game.
     
  17. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I went over almost every inch of the stadium and Andy speaks the truth. They thought very long and hard on the design to make it the best for every fan at the stadium they could. Even for those in the front row which is usually a bad seat at most places.
     
  18. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Even at 82 yards wide there's more space between the wall and the sidelines than necessary. They could've put fans closer to the action, and I'm not sure why they didn't. On-field exec seating? Concerts, other sports? Fitting two training or youth fields on there perhaps?

    But I wouldn't be surprised if Sigi asks them to take the width it in a little bit.

    Upper tier seats feel more on top of the action - you can see the near sideline over the signage, whereas in the lower bowl you can't always.

    As for Old Trafford, those sunken seats have their own appeal, but I'd rather be thirty rows up anyway.
     
  19. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Victoria Street is a beautiful stadium. I think that they could of put the front row of seats closer to the touchline. Of course i haven't been to the stadium yet. I'm baseing my opinion on what i saw on tv.
     
  20. Hey Waft Man

    Hey Waft Man Member

    Feb 17, 1999
    Colchester, CT
    Actually 75m is 82 yds (75m * (39.36 in/m) / (36 in/yd) = 82 yd). So you're both right.
    - HWM
     
  21. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The field of play must be rectangular. The length of the touch line must be greater than the length of the goal line.
    Length: minimum 90 m (100 yds)
    maximum 120 m (130 yds)
    Width: minimum 45 m (50 yds)
    maximum 90 m (100 yds)

    International Matches
    Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds)
    maximum 110 m (120 yds)
    Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds)
    maximum 75 m (80 yds)


    That's what I get for trusting the LOTG downloaded from the FIFA website.

    Trust but verify!
     
  22. Wolves_67

    Wolves_67 Member

    Oct 27, 2002
    Pasadena, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry. That's just wrong. And my brand new LOTG has it right.
    75M = 82.021 yards to be exact.
     
  23. LA Aztecs OG

    LA Aztecs OG New Member

    May 28, 2003
    BEATING THE QUAKES
  24. CrazyF.C.

    CrazyF.C. New Member

    Jun 15, 2001
    Washington D.C.
    I'm not saying the wall is ****************** for fans in the stadium, I'm saying it looks ****************** on tv. instead of seeing fans, we see a big green wall.

    oh, and you can't see the touchline in your picture. that could be solved if the seets were closer to the field.
     
  25. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, wow. A stadium actually built for the pleasure of the people attending the game, rather than the TV audience. What will they think of next?
     

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