Este thread es para hablar acerca de los resultados que le convienen a la seleccion. para esta fecha: URU-VEN que gane Uruguay ARG-ECU que gane Argentina BOL-CHI que gane Bolivia por supuesto que gane Colombia se sobreentiende esta vez.... Algo bueno en este thread será ver como se cambian con el tiempo nuestros deseos de que gane uno u oro equipo, quien sabe por ahi en la ultima jornada le hacemos fuerza a Uruguay o esta vez somo nosotros los que regalamos los puntos en el ultimo partido para que Paraguay clasifique... en fin el tiempo mostrara que tanto se han cambiado las cosas y que "acomodados" llegaremos a ser
Me parece que venezuela le va a sacar el empate a urugay....y ahí empieza un supuesto debacle de la celeste.... Argentina le va ganar a ecuador jugando muy mal Y Bolivia le gana a una chile diezmada.... Se que lo ideal es ganar, pero como dijo el pibe 2 puntos de visita contra rivales directos no son malos......toca también analizar que colombia con pekerman esta comenzando a hacer un proceso........y toca ser realistas, por mas buen presagio que tengamos de pekerman.....es una incógnita
It is going to be a very interesting match day. Venezuela has played Uruguay very tough the last few qualifications. I would not be shocked to see them get points of some sort. Ecuador also has played Argentina very close. They tied last time they played in Argentina. Chile beat Bolivia last cycle. Not sure if they can do it again.
bueno se va dando por ahora... ese uruguay es la caga..da uno nunca sabe a que juega pero siempre sabe como ingeniearsela para hacer goles.....
y un empate que tal ? yo quiero que empaten todos y solo gane colombia hahaha... aposte por el empate y hasta ahora van 1-1 venezuela y uruguay... entonces voy a apostar por una goleada a favor de colombia
justo cuando me preguntaba si era mejor pa colombia que empataran meten los venezolanos en empate.... ustedes que dicen?? mejor que cada uno se quede con un punto ?
Look Uruguay and Argentina should win every single game because both of them will qualify to the World Cup regardless. I hope Bolivia wins every game at home now till the end of the World Cup. Uru, Arg, Bolivia, Colombia+3 After round 5 1. Uruguay - 10p in 4 games 2. Arg - 10p in 5 games 3. Colombia - 7ps in 4 games 4. Ven - 7p in 5 games 5. Ecu - 6p in 4 games 6. Chile - 6p in 4 games 7. Para - 4p in 4 games 8. Bol - 4p in 5 games 9. Peru - 3 p in 5 games After round 6 Chile & Ven+1. Colombia,Uru, Bol, +3, 1. Uruguay - 13p in 5 games 2. Arg - 13p in 6 games 3. Colombia - 8/10ps in 5 games 4. Ven - 7-9p in 6 games 5. Chile - 6-9p in 5 games 6. Ecu - 6-9p in 5 games 7. Bol - 7p in 6 games 8. Para - 4p in 5 games 9. Peru - 3 p in 6 games
veo que andan diciendo que es mejor que todos empaten, pues hasta me esta sonando la idea, eso si que Bolivia le gane a Chile a hacerle fuerza a Bolivia!!!!
soy yo, o los bolivianos jugaron mejor contra nosotros ? ni un remate al arco de los bolivianos hasta ahora
la tabla se puso bravisima, hay mas presion ahora pa la seleccion en hacer 6 puntos... sino nos alejaremos de la punta
Exacto...ha sido un dia con resultados pesimos...el unico resultado bueno hasta ahora es la victoria parcial de argentina verso ecuador. Pero parece que el unico constante en esta tabla es la mediocridad de bolivia. De resto todos ganan a todos. Y pensar que sacamos los 3 puntos de la paz con una suerte tremenda. Yo senti que el resultado de venezuela era justo...nada que hacer. Tenemos que empezar a sumar de a 3, pero creo que tenemos con que.
As for Venezuela's draw, at first I thought that it's a bad results but then again it means that now even Uruguay will have to battle. in my opinion only Argentina is 100% qualify, the rest will battle, including Uruguay. Argentina looked pretty scary vs. Ecuador and could won by much. Ecuador offense is very weak away from home and maybe Colombia, Chile or Uruguay can be much difficult opponent for Argentina, but no doubt that the Albiceleste are the strongest side in these qualifiers. Chile won in La Paz and honestly lucky for us that we won there because I don't know who will lost points there vs. horrible Bolivian NT...Well, maybe Argentina who lost 2 precious points at home against them
I was thinking the same thing. Not many teams that will loose points over there... I think we must at least get 4 points out of these 2 games in order to realisticly go to the WC. The points lost at home must be regained away. And the "easiest" teams to do that with are peru and ecuador. To demand victories away over paraguay/chile/uruguay/argentina is far more complicated.
IT is weird. Bolivia not only has beaten Argentina twice in a row in La Paz, they also have tied Argentina twice in a row in Argentina (Copa america and WCQ.) I am not ready to say they will lose to everyone. They have shown they can compete.
I think the results, except the Chile victory were convenient to Colombia. Colombia must win as many games as possible and we must hope for every other team to earn 1 point at most. If Argentina breaks away and Bolivia proves to be a doormat so be it, but for the other teams is better if they tie between them and lose to Argentina and hopefully don't beat Bolivia. Regarding La Paz, I think that it is a mental thing at the end and that Brazilians and Argentinians do really fear the altitude. Other countries seem to have an antidote that works for them and the one that really doesn't seem to acknowledge altitude as a factor is Chile, not exactly sure the reason why. Venezuela and Ecuador have won there but I would wish for Uruguay, Paraguay and Peru to lose points over there.
I feel confident that Pekerman will get us to brazil. If we managed to win inspite of playing pretty poor, things can only get better. However I hope that he'll find another CB and gets rid of yepes, we can't risk having him on the pitch when we play chile again. To me aquivaldo, zuniga and armero (in spite of his crappy game last night) are given...I think they should gamble and let bernardo play for yepes. I hope he picks up a second yellow so we won't have a "I told you so"-escenario come the chile game.
I'm glad I watched this match again. I remember thinking of Peru completely dominating. But in hindsight I realized a couple things. One, the expectations and need were high come matchtime. We needed the points badly and with 6 months of speculation we expected things to somehow be handed to us. We all expected the same play we saw vs Mexico. Well, reality is that we weren't playing under true pressure in that match. These qualifiers are what they are, mean and gritty. Peru had a span of about 15 minutes from about the 20 min mark, where they had opportunity and clearly had control of the ball. Some of that opportunity was also created by sloppy defending (the Carillo breakaway was a silly Armero miscalculation). Prior to that and for most of the second half, it was a match with poor decision making, ball control and effectiveness on both sides. Did we deserve to win. Probably not. However, we had enough merit to play as in a very difficult environment and with a new DT at the helm.
I did a match by match analysis. uru2-0peru, ven1-1chi, bol1-2par, Ecuador 1-2 Colombia Ecu2-0Bol, Per1-2Ven, Arg2-0Par, Colombia 2-2 Uruguay Par2-1Ven, Uru3-0Ecu, Per1-3Arg Chile 2 - 2 Colombia Arg2-2Uru, Ecu2-2Chi, Bo2-1Per Colombia 3-1 Paraguay Ven2-1Ecu, Bol0-2Uru, Chi1-3Arg, Par2-1Per Arg3-1Ven, Uru3-0Par, Per1-2Chi Colombia 3 - 0 Bolivia Ecu2-1Par, Bol2-1Arg, Chi1-3Uru Venezuela 1-1 Colombia Bol1-1Ven, Per2-2Ecu,Par1-2Chi Argentina 2-1 Colombia Chi2-0Bol,Ecu1-2Arg, Ven1-1Uru, Colombia 3-0 Peru Per0-2Uru,Chi1-1Ven,Par2-0Bol, Colombia 2-1 Ecuador Ven2-1Per, Par1-2Arg,Bol2-1Ecu, Uruguay 2-1 Colombia Arg3-1Per,Ven2-1Par,Ecu2-2Uru Colombia 2-1 Chile Chi2-1Ecu,Per2-0Bol,Uru2-1Arg Paraguay 1-2 Colombia With these results which I believe are achievable, the chart would look like this. These results rely on the continued downslide of Paraguay, which I don't see them coming out of, doing to their coach sucking, and their players being substandard. The majority of their European players have retired. They could be better if Chile starts doing poorly, which is quite possible because their coach sucks and they were all hating on their defense against Bolivia yesterday, the only thing is that Bolivia this year is much worse than Bolivia in 2010 WCQ. They don't count on Peru or Ecuador doing very well. Ecuador I can't see doing well because Rueda is shit. Peru I can't see doing well because a lack of players. With these results Colombia needs to win 6 points away from home between the games in Ecuador, Argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Uruguay, and Paraguay to get these results. These could come from two wins or one win and three ties or six ties. Even with only 3 points in away games we would still get these results. Nonetheless for these to be valid we must win at home against Paraguay, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, and Chile. Getting another 6 Points away and wins against at least four teams locally will ensure our qualification, even in fifth place.