Quarterly Quarrel - The Financial Discussion Part 5

SyedZada · Sep 23, 2024

Very american football stadium vibes.

Deadtigers · Sep 24, 2024

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 said: ↑

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts

looks unremarkable so far
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Give me the AI rendition. I am looking at a birthday cake for all I know.

Father Ted · Sep 24, 2024

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 said: ↑

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-latest-on-deals-signings-loans-and-contracts

looks unremarkable so far
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Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 · Sep 24, 2024

when i first saw it it looked like a polished bar of soap someone painted or one of those mints with a flavour inside you get at the restaurant

Father Ted · Sep 24, 2024

https://www.manutd.com/en/videos/detail/video-of-old-trafford-regeneration-project-on-23-sep-2024

now there's a video

thefly · Sep 24, 2024

Seems clear the direction they want to go and smart that this is not being sold as a new stadium but instead for a regeneration project for the whole area.

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 · Sep 25, 2024

Manchester United are preparing to discuss new contracts for key duo Kobbie Mainoo and Amad Diallo, Sky Sports News can reveal.
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Erik ten Hag told Sky Sports News he will work together with the football leadership team to see the new contracts over the line.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/...lks-with-key-duo-after-strong-start-to-season

Father Ted · Sep 30, 2024

So Ineos ending work from home, cutting 250 jobs including firing the kitman, club historian(40 years), comms officer(25 years), and scraping lunches for matchday staff is having such a brilliant impact on the performance of the team, right?

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 · Oct 30, 2024

i am unsure how to feel about INEOS so far:

very clumsy handling of the review at the end of last season. made the wrong choice and had to walk it back a mere 3 months later ( - )

overtly courting other managers which left ten Hag in a weak position ( - )

clear plan with the summer signings though - age, profile, ability etc. ( + )

shifted a lot of players that weren't good enough for decent money ( + )

thankfully smarter than most and can see beyond Tuchel, Potter, Southgate as the only options to replace ten Hag ( + )

should have known Amorim and a fair few others would have been better or at minimum good choices in the summer ( ? )

i'll give them more time but it's been a mixed bag so far. not hopeless though

benni... · Oct 30, 2024

Does clearing out some deadwood count in point no. 3?

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 · Oct 30, 2024

benni... said: ↑

Does clearing out some deadwood count in point no. 3?
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no, but it's a good shout. i'll add it

thefly · Oct 30, 2024

Good article today on the Athletic that touches on the last point above by Ruud - they did look at Amorim in the summer but both parties decided then the time wasn’t right. His buyout clause was higher and they also wanted to give ETH a chance under the new structure.

Makes some sense in my opinion, but counter point to that now is (1) while the buyout for Amorim is less the payout to ETH is higher - not sure whether we are paying more or less though (2) hard to say that ETH was really given a run under the new structure, hasn’t been that many games.

For me, seeing how this played out, the move should have been done in the summer - but better now than never I suppose and certainly better than somehow ending up with a Southgate.

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 · Oct 30, 2024

thefly said: ↑

Good article today on the Athletic that touches on the last point above by Ruud - they did look at Amorim in the summer but both parties decided then the time wasn’t right. His buyout clause was higher and they also wanted to give ETH a chance under the new structure.

Makes some sense in my opinion, but counter point to that now is (1) while the buyout for Amorim is less the payout to ETH is higher - not sure whether we are paying more or less though (2) hard to say that ETH was really given a run under the new structure, hasn’t been that many games.

For me, seeing how this played out, the move should have been done in the summer - but better now than never I suppose and certainly better than somehow ending up with a Southgate.
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very true. didn't even have 15 games under the new regime. but he did have even more of his own players and was performing even worse (less ppg for example or not winning back to back league games in a year or whatever)

my guess is INEOS set some kind of target for league finish and they pulled the plug now because the % of the points remaining that need to be won to meet the target has already crossed 80% if not 85%

JC7rox · Oct 30, 2024

INEOS themselves are on the clock so they can’t dither if they hope to be successful. There is still 75% of the season to salvage.

SF19 · Dec 10, 2024

Ashworth is gone. Things going more south under Ineos.

Father Ted · Dec 19, 2024

Hmm... Radcliffe buys more of us:

Ratcliffe has increased his shareholding in Manchester United, according to U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filings released on Thursday. The British billionaire has paid around £79 million ($99.6m) for another 1.24% of the club. He formally agreed to pay £1.2 billion for a 27.7% stake in December last year, meaning the latest investment increases his share to 28.94%.
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https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...d-ownership-sir-jim-ratcliffe-increases-stake

CybrSlydr · Dec 25, 2024

The hits keep coming...

JC7rox · Dec 26, 2024

Rats in the boardroom and mice everywhere else. Lol

Sofabloke · Dec 27, 2024

And pussies on the pitch ….

Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10 · Jan 10, 2025

not sure how accurate this is given the source but doesn't seem too far off. regardless we have a lot of wage doing nothing useful

SF19 · Jan 10, 2025

Amad and Kobbie need better agents.

thefly · Jan 14, 2025

Wasn't sure where to post this, but given the renos to Carrington are from Radcliff's investment it seemed that this was the best spot.

Good article on the athletic - reminder you can use reader view to see it

Welcome to Carrington – the evolution of Manchester United’s training ground

thefly · Jan 17, 2025

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwxx15vjdxo

Replacing Old Trafford with a new 100,000-seater Manchester United stadium and regenerating the surrounding area could bring £7bn to the UK economy, a new report suggests.

Sofabloke · Jan 23, 2025 at 3:52 PM

Incredibly depressing reading on the state of our finances.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6080398/2025/01/23/manchester-united-transfer-cash-problem/

Glazers had to (partially) sell as they were running out of road.

Ineos are coming to a similar crossroads - gonna have to either inject more or with decreasing revenue from no CL / Europa football, higher interest on debt repayments, still paying of transfer debt for garbage players, players coming to end of contracts etc. It will still come to a head at some point.