I believe we get 3rd place of Mexico/Jamaica/Guat, not Colombia. And Canada has made their graceful exit. Semifinal would be winner of Costa Rica/Honduras. Confirm or deny please.
Per USsoccer.com: "The U.S. opponent will be either Jamaica, South Africa or Mexico, who complete Group C play on Wednesday, July 13 in Houston, Texas. All three teams are still in the running for the top three places in the group, and the U.S. will play the third-place finisher."
HA!! im not lying to you. about 10 minutes ago it read Colombia. can someone else confirm this? they must have screwed up because I swear I'm not goin crazy.i mean it went pretty in depth about their history playing Colombia and everything now it's all edited out. wow glad i saw this thread.
According to the Gold Cup Website: http://www.us.terra.com/goldcup2005/calendario.html The United States will play either the third place team in Group A or C. That would be either: Colombia who had 3 points. Or any of the Group 3 teams. If Jamaica were to beat Mexico and Guatamala were to overcome a 8 goal differential with Mexico Mexico would be eliminated and Guatamala would have the third spot. More realistically It will be South Africa, Mexico or Jamaica. If Jamaica wins, they will claim the top spot. If South Africa wins, they will claim the top spot. I imagine the the only way the US would not play Colombia is if the afforementioned situiation with Guatamala were to happen. Otherwise Mexico, SA or Jamaica would all have 4 points, more than Colombia.
Honduras vs Costa Rica United States vs JAM/RSA/MEX JAM/RSA/MEX vs Colombia JAM/RSA/MEX vs Panama Most likely we will be playing Jamaica.
Agreed. But you never know. Hopefully they will draw for the fans. I mean it'd be a great game to have U.S. vs. Mexico in Foxboro. Huge split crowd is always fun.
Actually, according to the CONCACAF site, Canada is not yet eliminated - but Colombia is definitely in. I guess the unlikely way for them to make it is if Guatemala beats out Mexico for third in their group, but not by enough to catch Canada. Odd. Remaining games: Mexico-Jamaica (I expect Mexico to win) RSA-Guatemala (I expect at best a tie for G) It would be interesting to play Mexico on Saturday, but I'd rather play them later in the tourney.
Actually, the only way Canada can advance to the next round is if Jamaica beats Mexico by 6, which would make Canada the second best 3rd place team. And we all know this is a totally realistic situation, right?
I don't know - an early Jamaica goal, some frustrated Mexico players lash out Cobi-style and you have two red cards, Mexico hangs their heads and Jamaica has a party. Unlikely? Yes. But it could happen.
Assuming all goes as planned tonight (South Africa beats Guatemala and Mexico beats Jamaica) the quarterfinals will look like this: Q1: (A1 v B2) Honduras v Costa Rica Q2: (B1 v C3) USA v Jamaica Q3: (C1 v A3) South Africa v Colombia Q4: (C2 v A2) Mexico v Panama and then it's... Q1 winner v Q2 winner Q3 winner v Q4 winner
Off Topic- If this tournament was held 20 years or so ago, we could have been seeing a USA v USA match. Prior to RSA, they were USA (Union of South Africa). This other USA was however banned from many sports due to its racial policies and I suppose soccer was one of those sports that banned them at that time.
I don't want to play Mexico again till 3 September. I don't want a B-team match to take away from the momentum and excitement building up to that game. I don't want my hatred and need for revenge to be diminished by a "meaningless" Gold Cup win.
Happy stuff. In any event, we are looking at CRC again in the Semis, where I hope we would roll out a better team than the one that played last night. B/t/w, does anyone know if yellow card accumulation carries over from Group play to the knock-out round?
cry more? the september 3rd game is pretty meaningless as well. I mean we will have 3 more points by that time and are pretty much in the world cup already. Both Mexico and USA will be in the world cup so it's not that meaningful. Even if Mexico were to win September 3rd, it wouldn't really matter. But when 2006 comes by and we end up playing Mexico again and beat them, then it would matter.
I don't know - I think if we were to clinch Germnay with a win over Mexico (entirely possible considering the games currently scheduled), that would be a big emotional blow to them. And it would take back the momentum they got when they won in Azteca.
oh yes, I am so crying. On the meaningful scale, an already-qualified-WCQ is far below a WC match, sure. But I don't think Gold Cup matches even register. Actually, I really don't care who we play, as long as I can watch the game, this time. [cry]Damn Telefutura![/cry]
I'm not sure how the seeding works for WC2006, but I would think winning the CONCACAF region would affect what pot we're put into and ultimately which teams we're grouped with.
I don't think so - at least, it isn't supposed to be that way. Whether they do it with smoke and mirrors, though, is a different story.
Very doubtful. 5/6 of the seeding formula is already locked in (Last 3 WC results and 12/03 & 12/04 FIFA rankings) so that our best chance to be seeded is to have 1 or 2 Euro/SA seeds fail to qualify. Even if Mexico were to crash out with the 6 goal loss needed for them not to advance to the Quarters those results would be partially if not mostly offset by their Confed Cup run last month. Also even if we win out the Gold Cup and remaining WCQ's I don't think it would be enough to move far enough up the 2005 FIFA Rankings so that we are seed without getting any help. All of that being said I hope I get to see a better game than last night on Sat..