I copied this from elsewhere on these boards: First, my numbers may be so far off as to not be funny. If Helmet or Jay or any of the SSV guys who know the real numbers will respond, let me know if this is a fantasy. Garber above says "$50 million has been invested." Invested in a euphamism for 'spent'. He's saying they've spent $50 million on the Quakes in 10 years. He's not saying what the flip side is: what was the income? How about this for some 'ballpark' figures: I don't know the Quakes average attendence for 10 years but say it was 13,000. I don't know the average ticket price but say it was $20. That's ticket revenue of: 13,000 tickets per game, times $20 per ticket, times 16 games per year, times 10 years = $41,600,000 Well, that's a loss of $8,400,000 over 10 years. $840,000 per year. Well, not the disaster as advertised above, is it? Now let's look at sponsorship. A modest amount of local sponsorship per year should have been, what? $500,000 a year? What about league-wide sponsorship? Adidas is kicking in something close to $15 million a year for the league over the next 10 years. What's each franchise's share of that? Estimate it down to $1 million a year. I know these numbers aren't right, but are they even in the ballpark? It looks like $50 million spent, and damn close to $50 million taken in. 40 million + in ticket sales 5 million or so in local sponsorship Share of league-wide sponsorship Additional 1 million a year for the next 10 from Adidas Can someone who's familiar with the real numbers educate us?