News: QEPD Julio Grondona, AFA President

I'm pretty sure there's exceptions to rules about that.

 

I have already blasted him enough while he was alive anyway.....

 

There will be elections in 3 months. U guys really think changes will happen or Segura will just be voted in?

 

There will be as many changes as needed to remain the same...

 

More optimism flaco! It could be a new era for the AFA.

 

Well, i kinda have some optimism cause I know no one can fill the void that Grondona left. He had so much power even to the last of his days...

And i read this on another forum that really gives some "realist optimism", comparing him with Al Capone and the power struggle after his demise... (in spanish)

 

I don't think Uruguay's game against Jordan has nor should it have anything to do with it... Just look at how pathetic Asian teams were in the world cup... And Africa too, other than Algeria...

CONCACAF had an ok world cup but their teams are middle of the road and costa rica can't be expected to pull off another quarterfinal... Behind the CONCACAF teams that made it are some really shitty teams like Panama and Nicaragua... I mean just look at Honduras, IMO the worst team in the world cup along with Cameroon. They were also the most violent team by a far, they had no intention of playing... If thats how bad honduras is, imagine the teams who didn't make it from that region

 

Come on guys stay classy. I know he wasn't well liked but its just not right to make fun of someone who just passed away, no matter who they are.

 

As Moishe said, you are looking at this as a fan of argentine NT not as an argentine or a fan of argentine football... You think all grondona did was "hold back" the NT from reaching full potential.

I assure you its much more than that. Think Al Capone but friends with 9 different presidents and dictators... Grondona was a partner of Videla who, if you want to think in european terms, was the argentine hitler or perhaps a better example would be stalin since he killed 10,000 of his own people... Grondona supported him 100% just as he's supported people like Menem and the Kirchners who bankrupted the country.

And as I said before... 171 deaths and he did nothing. If you don't see the crime in that, well you don't understand argentina or argentine football, sorry

 

It is interesting as Moishe said... For most non-argentines who are fans of the NT, Grondona is just some guy who "held back" the NT and chose bad coaches... When in reality, no one in Argentina or who grew up here even thinks about that

We think about the corruption, the mafia, the deaths of innocents, the barras bravas, the bankruptcy of the clubs he forced in many cases, videla, cristina, futbol para todos, etc.... All things far worse than anything he did with the NT

 

Do u think good change is coming though?

 

The thing is, no one who comes in will have the power of Grondona... Right now everyone owes grondona a favor, or money, or both... thats why all the clubs are in debt.

Whoever comes in won't wield that power, no matter how corrupt they may be.

So yes, good change is coming IMO... It won't be great because its still argentina, but it will be better

 

Well said.

I must say--as an outsider looking in I am learnign a lot about him mainly the wrong he's done.

Care to link in spanish or english links about his past?

What changes do you guys think will come now that he has passed?

 

I'm glad people are airing it out. Gordona was a fat slob, who like every other tyrannical piece of shit from his era hung to power like a leech. A thick infested leech, whose accomplished nothing to Argentine football. He was a mockery of the sport, and only protected by those who are as corrupt and evil as he was. Gordona is everything that's wrong with Argentina's past, he's a living memory of everything that's still going wrong today (if you follow the news about what's happening). I'm glad to see him go, a last remnant of a era too far gone. Gordona mentioned "I'm in the best shape of my life"..... Gordona The Irony.

We need a new nick name for him. Don Julio "The Irony" Gordona

 

Starting to think who the next President of AFA will be though i think its someone already working there

 

Yesterday I had an appointment right in front of AFA. I couldn´t believe how many passersby shouted and cursed at him, after the news of his death were out. Not an easy feat to be remembered in such way by most people.

 

The whole AFA body is populated by corruption. Cutting off one head of the hydra means several more emerge. They are not in it for the benefit of Argentinian football as a whole but themselves. So long as the revenues from transfers, advertising, sponsorship keep coming in they are not that bothered by our dismal displays on the world stage given the talent we have had.

Argentina as a whole should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world blessed with natural resources and people who can get things done. Unfortunately the nation has been led by numpties for decades who like most demagogues talk a lot but do little , only to enrich themselves.

People now have to contend with this debt default thanks to the incompetence of Kirchner and her cronies. Rising inflation once again, more money lost on interest repayments on all borrowing and following such actions as against Repsol declining external investment.

You can see once more another diaspora in the making if things do not improve. And yes the state of the economy does tie in with football. If Argentina did have a strong economy along with structural changes within the AFA along with sorting the parasite culture (agents, shareholders, gangsters) teams would be able to hold onto their youngsters for longer and tempt older veterans back sooner.

I am sure the mothers and others related to the disappeared will be celebrating as they have every right to do. It is great that he is gone but unfortunately there is a whole class of these blood suckers to get rid of.

 

Hi guys! Who would you like to see as AFA president and who do have best chances to become it?

 

Luis Segura confirmed to be the head of AFA until october 2015.

When the current mandate of Grondona was supposed to expire... Too bad for him he expired earlier.