Qatar Nights - The Winter World Cup Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ArsenalJake, Oct 23, 2022.

  1. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    This is why the teams with most chemistry are the ones who many have players who play at the same club namely Germany and Bayern 2014 and Spain and Barcelona 2010.

    Most fluid teams to win it. France was well formed but it was built over time. Players peaking and younger players adjusting and maturing quickly allows for that.

    Deschamps was rocked by the most injuries to key players before this World Cup, including Nkunku, Benzema. Pogba and Kante were already out prior.
     
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  2. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Bruh as much as I want Japan to win…that ball was out
     
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  3. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WOW japan Just score twice in a few minutes, totally upending the group. And the last goal was millimeters from being disallowed for being over the byline. 50 mins to go though. Hang on to you hats.
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That makes elite content truly legendary. Now Costa Rica need to win too.
     
  5. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Surely this group stage has been the best in years. Any team can pull a suprise. Can it continue to KO stages? I hope so!
     
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  6. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    LET’S GO JAPAN AND COSTA RICA GAMBARE PURA VIDAAAA
     
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  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    omg. Germany AND Spain are all but dead and buried.
     
  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Germany fighting for its life, gets an equalizer, which does Spain a huge favor. What a fvcking group finale!
     
  9. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Noooooo Costa Rica CB coming through with the Cucurella school of defending, what was that?!? :(
     
  10. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That 4th goal by GER is a good example of why I want the offside law/interpretation changed.
     
  11. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First it was Budweiser. Now Belgium and Germany have also been eliminated from Qatar. Just a shocking World Cup showing for beer. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Morocco's reward for topping their group, Spain. Oof, but this World Cup has been crazy.
     
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  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Germany going out due to dodgy over the line tech

    not ironic is it?
     
  14. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    As a result of Japan going through top, the top half of the bracket is looking very light. Smooth sailing for Argentina, Brazil, maybe even USA
     
  15. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    in one paragraph, you're saying he "may have just needed a boost in confidence" and, in another, you're acknowledging the importance of a good keeper needing "to be both cocky and confident", which was it for szczesny in your mind?

    and, if you think szczesny needed "a boost in confidence", i need to know if we were following the same player because dude had bendtner-tier confidence and cockiness. (fabianski, in contrast, was perpetually one mistake away from mentally breaking down and in my opinion, with good reason, because his leash always seemed far, far shorter than szczesny's.) szczesny had the same self-belief and confidence as mustafi that, any goal conceded was surely someone else's fault. you could see it on literally every single goal we gave up because he was immediately up and looking for someone to point fingers at. same as mustafi. you aren't developing any further at that point. sure, playing with and being around gigi buffon could possibly be good for your development but so could have playing with and being around . . . petr cech. until and unless you know you have things to learn need to continue developing, you aren't getting any better, as we have seen from bendtner,pennant, and what's-his-name that was there at the same time as pennant.

    100% agree that a keeper need that same cockiness and confidence as an american football cornerback or a basketball shooter who needs to have that zero short-term memory to succeed. they need that ability to look at the last goal or pass conceded and go, "next one is mine." (and why, sadly, fabianski has a ceiling.)

    smoking in and of itself, as you said, is an addiction and not an indication of someone who thinks they're great. smoking and giving zero fucks about instructions or consequences as gallas and szczesny did said i know better, the hell with what the coach/manager says.
     
  16. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Apparently the excitement and drama of match day 3 in the group stage is giving FIFA second thoughts about 2026.

    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...der-ditching-three-team-group-format-for-2026

    The main motivation for the 48 team format with 16 groups of 3 was that it increases the total number of matches from 64 (in 48 TV windows since the current format involves playing matches at the same time to avoid collusion) up to 80 matches, none of which need to happen simultaneously.

    This new proposal in this article would be 104 (!) matches, so of course they will consider it because more TV = more money.

    I'd keep the current format, but if they insist on going to 48, it would be better if they stuck with 2 advancing out of each group to get to 24 in the knockouts and give a bye to the 8 best finishers. That would give someone like Brazil or France this year, who won their first 2 matches and were guaranteed to advance, motivation to get a result in the 3rd match to earn the bye.
     
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  17. Quentin

    Quentin Member

    Jul 12, 2008
    Hurricane, WV, USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What’s your beef with it? There has to be some act to bring the player back into play. A square/back pass from an onside player seems as appropriate as anything else.
     
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  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well... since you ask, here are some posts I made about it in another thread, where we had been previously debating the offside law a bit:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/2022-world-cup-usa-iran.2123682/page-46#post-41003040
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/2022-world-cup-usa-iran.2123682/page-47#post-41004601
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/2022-world-cup-usa-iran.2123682/page-47#post-41004675
     
  19. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Belgium have some talent, but its not "golden generation" talent which they have absolutely squandered here. 2018 was their year to win the WC but Martinez just isn't a good enough manager.

    With the list they had in 2018 and even this year, to bomb the group stages is a massive bottle-job.
    Australia, Morocco, Japan, Senegal, Poland, USA are all teams that overall lack the talent that Belgium have but have failed to progress because those teams have either got a better manager that utilises their team better, or managers that come up with better counter plans to the specific teams in their group.

    Plus bad kicking is bad football. Japan and Australia have had limited chances in matches and take them. Belgium should have beaten Croatia at LEAST 3-0 and that sees them progress.
     
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  20. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed

    In most sports you get back onside in broken play by tracking back, or waiting for play to go past you - otherwise how can you ever get back in the game
     
  21. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I was trying to point out, apparently not very effectively, that I don’t think it was a “jolt of rejection” that kickstarted his development, just the natural maturation and development of a relatively young keeper that benefitted from the boost in confidence of being the undisputed #1 at Roma, a luxury he didn’t have in his last season at Arsenal, where he split time with Ospina.
     
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  22. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like to think the best thing that ever happened to Szczesny was 2 seasons of shadowing Gigi at Juventus before taking over when he retired.
     
  23. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I agree that Szczesny probably benefitted from training with Buffon, but initially it was only one season and they split time in that season, with Buffon starting 21 League games and Szczesny starting 17, before Buffon retired to PSG the next year. When Buffon returned to Juventus after one year at PSG, Szczesny was the starting keeper. As an aside, at 44 Buffon still isn’t retired, he is currently playing for Parma in Serie B.
     
  24. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    Kansas City
    Son and South Korea advance to likely face Brazil. Partey and Ghana are eliminated.
     
  25. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So happy Luiz Suarez is going home.
     
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