Qatar 2022: News and Analysis Only!

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by bungadiri, Mar 28, 2011.

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  1. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    As I said before, who cares about the gold or the asian cups.
    For world order they are minor tournaments, while this topic is about the Qatar 2022 WC, which is much more important and lots more atractive, than both of them together (for the football world, that is).
     
  2. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well since we have 11 years. All that matters or is suppose to show up in this thread is overall construction of Qatar. So stadiums, airports, and the biggest one of all, hotels.
     
  3. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    Exactly, as atomicbloke also said, with 10-11 years ahead of us, and with all the money they posses, none of these recent tournaments will be anything like what the 2022 WC will be. Thinking otherwise would be silly.
    :)
     
  4. Deathstar

    Deathstar Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Syd Er Knee
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Germany 2006 was for the average fan as they could get around the country relatively cheaply and most importantly, safely.

    Australia has a wide range of accommodation for visitors ranging from inexpensive backpacker hostels through to 5 star resorts. All accommodation regardless of standard is monitored by government. Public transport travel within metro areas is fast, safe and relatively cheap. Travel between cities can be expensive if you fly but if you are prepared to put up with train or coach travel it can be very cheap.
     
  5. Tifosi FC

    Tifosi FC New Member

    Oct 25, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Sydney's public transport network is a shambles !!
     
  6. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is no need for true public transportation. They could easily build like what in Dubai. A monorail system. From stadium to stadium. That would be there best system. Not buses and highways.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK...but in your system, how are people going to get to the stadium in the first place???
     
  8. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would think the would build the "hotels" and "party viewing plazas" and "beer drinking plazas" right next to the stadiums. Not in the middle of the city.
     
  9. Deathstar

    Deathstar Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Syd Er Knee
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/jF_yLodI1CQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    http://youtu.be/jF_yLodI1CQ

    I am not sure why this does not embed properly any clues anyone?
     
  10. Deathstar

    Deathstar Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Syd Er Knee
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia

    It's actually quite good. What the problem is is that there are not enough lines and there has been a lack of investment since 1988 (ie. not 1996 as BOF and "I'm only talking to Gladys" would have you believe).
     
  11. milcarb86

    milcarb86 New Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    RC Deportivo de La Coruña
    Nat'l Team:
    Cuba
    Swiss journalists arrested filming report in Qatar

    GENEVA (AP)—A Swiss television network says it’s contacting FIFA after two journalists were detained in Qatar while filming a report on the 2022 World Cup host.

    Radio Television Suisse says the incident was a “serious violation of press freedom.”

    RTS says reporter Christophe Cerf and cameraman Yvan Thorimbert were stopped April 1, handcuffed and interrogated at police stations in Mesaieed and Wakra.

    The network says a judge in Doha fined the journalists, confiscated their camera and stopped them from leaving the emirate.

    Switzerland’s ambassador in Kuwait intervened and the pair left with their camera after 13 days.

    RTS says its journalists had previous assurances from Qatari diplomats in Geneva that they could film freely.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-qatar-journalistsheld

    How lovely :eek:
     
  12. thejuggernaut

    thejuggernaut Member

    Mar 25, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember someone saying "Qatar HASN'T been a train wreck since the announcement"...
     
  13. DestroyerDaMarc

    Dec 8, 2005
    New York
    Club:
    Newcastle Jets
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When you're labor force is from India it all depends on the economy back home.
     
  14. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They need to have good promotion, like United Arab Emirates.
     
  15. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Just like every other country in the world you could get detained if you don't have permission to film. It happens all over the world.

    I would guess they didn't have permission and never had any assurances, if they did then just show the official letter, opps they can't. They weren't allowed!
     
  16. milcarb86

    milcarb86 New Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    RC Deportivo de La Coruña
    Nat'l Team:
    Cuba
    yeah I know it happens all over the world, from Cuba to North Korea, and because it happens in some messed up countries it makes it ok? You are using a fallacy to argue, just because it is done in 1 place doesn't all the sudden make it alright for it to happen in another place. Specially in a place that will host a WC in which a gazillion journalists will have to work. For your information Qatar ranks 65, on a scale from 1 (most free) to 100 (least free).

    I highly doubt they didn't just "have no permission" to film there, I mean in any normal country if that was the case they would of just been kicked out of the place etc. unless it was Area 51 or something. But these guys were interrogated and denied from leaving the country? And a diplomat had to intervene for them and were let go after 13 days? yeah sounds to me like more than a "hey you can't film here go away"...
     
  17. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a plan in place I think to build a metro to link the stadiums...
    http://dubaimetro.eu/featured/5484/doha-metro-tenders-to-be-issued-by-mid-2011
    strange though if the stadiums won't be there after the tournament though what they'll do with the rail system :eek:
     
  18. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    I hope the rail system is a success and they dump it in my home town!!

    Qatar will be a 3rd world country after 22 with them moving everything!
     
  19. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know Qatar. But really, these stadiums are temporary? If the stadiums are temporary, then does that mean the "proposed" hotels around the stadiums will be temporary? I understand the hovering air-conditioned clouds are temporary, but the stadiums?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z2jtUS9-Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z2jtUS9-Y[/ame]

    If anyone has videos or pictures of there other 7 stadiums, that would be awesome. I know the coolest looking stadium is the island stadium, but thats not in the video.
     
  20. The 92nd Fish

    The 92nd Fish Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    London, England
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Suburbs? It's how large swathes of London's city suburbs were created. Route an underground line into the countryside and then built a new residential area around the station. Although I doubt Doha's inner city and residential areas are as crowded as London.
     
  21. --X--

    --X-- New Member

    Feb 8, 2010
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    I very much doubt it too.Qatar has an extremely tiny population.Only 70,000 Qatari taxpayers last year.Hard to believe 10 stadiums in an ultra small city for the worlds biggest and most popular sport

    Will definitely get cut back to absolute minimum-probably 7 stadia could still handle wear and tear on the pitch
    Less stadia=less people=less accomodation=less people=less security=less headaches
     
  22. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its 12 stadiums in 7 cities. 6 of the stadiums are in Doha. The other 6 stadiums are in the other 6 cities. I think we can basically confirm there will be a Monorail to the 6 stadiums in Doha. Connecting the other 6 stadiums/cities will be a bit harder especially Ash Shamal and Al Khor. If you see any of the stadiums cancelled, expect it to be those two. They are two of the 10 stadiums that are expected to only have a capacity between 43k-47k. The main two stadiums are in Doha and Lusail. Doha's main stadium will fit 68k, while Lusail's will fit over 80k.

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    On another note, from the video I posted earlier, I realized that for 2-3 of the stadiums, there main highlight included getting to the stadiums by Water Taxi.
    And here is a link to a preview of the island stadium.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog...and-stadium-for-2022-World-Cup?urn=sow-275108
     
  23. Michael2010

    Michael2010 New Member

    Aug 12, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    FIFA is on the wrong side of the Arab Spring

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fi...de-of-the-arab-spring-2011-04-26?pagenumber=2
     
  24. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
  25. --X--

    --X-- New Member

    Feb 8, 2010
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    This IS ugly yet we knew it all along.This is only a poofteenth of the overall scam which was at least $13 billion as I've already documented in previous versions of this thread.Shame Qatar-----SHAME

    http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1055877/FIFA-faces-new-bribe-claims
    New allegations that two FIFA executive committee members were paid $US1.5million ($1.4million) to vote for Qatar's 2022 World Cup bid emerged on Tuesday.
    The shock claims were highlighted by MPs at the culture, media and sport committee in the House of Commons.
    Tory MP Damian Collins said that evidence submitted by the Sunday Times, which the committee will publish, claimed that FIFA vice-president Issa Hayatou from Cameroon and Jacques Anouma from the Ivory Coast were paid $US1.5million by Qatar.
     

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