PSE&G and Other Utilities Get a Failing Grade for Power Outages Due to Latest Storm

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  1. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This marks the fourth time in the less than two years that we have lost power for periods in excess of 24 hours due to storms. This utility is entirely reactive instead of being proactive in how they handle emergencies. If they had after the Nor'easter of March 2010 undertaken a program of trimming and pruning trees overhanging their power lines they could have greatly reduced the power outtages. This is completely preventable or at minimum manageable. What a debacle.
     
  2. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    In DC, PEPCO last year was calling customers BEFORE the storm and apologizing for the long power outages! :rolleyes:

    DC's problem is inherent as there are thousands of overgrown trees in the Metro area. No way they can keep up with trimming. Once an ice or heavy snow storm hits it's lights out, literally.
     
  3. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't get it. are power lines in the east build differently than in colorado? we've had a similar snow storm here in colorado last week as well. it caused hardly any power outages. granted, we get the light fluffy kind of snow, not the heavy wet type, but still!
     
  4. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I live in Virginia about 20 minutes outside of DC. From the center of DC to where I live and maybe another 20 minutes farther out all the powerlines are on telephone poles. From Loudoun County on out they are all buried. Loudoun where Dulles Airport resides is part of suburban sprawl that planned communities went up at a rapid rate in the late 80's early 90's. Everything closer in is old infrastructure.

    We've been hit with all kinds of storms, soft powdery snow, big wet heavy flakes and killer ice storms that guarantee power outages. There are just way too many trees in the inner suburbs and DC proper that can be trimmed. That would be a 24/7 365 day job.
     
  5. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sounds like a "shovel ready" stimulus project waiting to be funded!
    I think our infrastructure is something that people take for granted, because as far as they know and remember, it has always been there. they fail to see just how much it contributed to the economic boom and America's rise to power and prominence in the world, that they've enjoyed all their lives. as a result, they don't place the kind of importance on maintaining and improving it that it deserves. it doesn't produce immediate results/benefits, and therefore it goes neglected in our "I want it now" society, both by politicians, who are on a 2-4 year election cycle, and the general public, who are too ignorant to know any better.
    ok, rant over. back on topic.
     
  6. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    Quit whining. Buy a generator.
     
  7. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back before my last ban after a particularly nasty winter across the US and during either Obama's ARRA projects or some of Bush's last term when we had people w/o power for weeks, when we were talking about projects that would have a real lasting effect, I proposed a continual program of burying the residential conductors that are the primary lines that are affect by ice and snow and falling trees. The transmission conductors are rarely affected by anything other than tornado, hurricane, earthquake since nothing falls on them.

    But some supply sider/neo/theocon went on and on about the costs of doing it to the poor power companies, regardless of the costs of repairs that are borne more and more by FEMA/Feds with disaster declarations because the power companies can't afford to repair their own lines.
     
  8. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why? Up until the past two years there was no need. Maximum power outage was less than a day. Mere hours actually.
     
  9. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
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    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    I'm a PSE&G customer and fortunately have power. My parents are sleeping over for the 3rd night in a row because they are one of the 100,000+ PSE&G customers without power. I lost power for about 24hrs after Irene but only lost my kids' swing set to a downed tree this time.

    Connecticut. CL&P are the truly pathetic power company. 700,000 outages for Irene and now 800,000 for this nor'easter. 63% of their customers. Have they every heard of a power "GRID?" My cousin in CT was without power for a week after Irene and now she's without again. I'd have my torch and pitchfork out if I were her.
     
  10. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that the power companies cannot afford to repair their own lines.:D
     
  11. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
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    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    that is the difference. My outdoor thermometer sat at 34 degrees throughout the entire storm and I got 6 or 7 inches of wet, heavy snow. Throw in relatively strong winds and 90% of the trees full of still green leaves and you get what we got. Lots more tree damage than Irene. Never seen anything like it.
     
  12. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the summer rates they charge, I somehow doubt it.
     
  13. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
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    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I remember having a similar storm here but it was in May (when the trees were blooming) and without the winds. Still, the heavy wet snow damaged a lot of the trees in the neighborhood and you couldn't use the sidewalks without the risk of getting hit by branches as they broke.

    I guess your town won't have a wood chip shortage anytime soon.
     
  14. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We got power in the past hour, but this is the straw that broke the camel's back it's time for both the utlities and the municipalities to get their act together. Prune trees relocate lines as necessary. The United States is not a third world country. Our infrasructure should be solid and dependable.
     
  15. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Chicken/Egg.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the city kept its power. So maybe it's just shitbox Jersey we are talking about being 3rd world.
     
  17. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice that Manhattan has underground electrical. Any place with lot's of trees would be prone to issues if the trees weren't pruned. Thanks for your typical cheap shot post.

    You are so transparent.

    You can crawl back under the rock whence you came.
     
  18. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  19. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    Utilities Get a Failing Grade for Power Outages

    Perhaps they need to pass a law banning snow, while leaves are still on the trees.
     
  20. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    What does that make CT?

    ...I liked you more when you lived in Jersey City.
     
  21. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 1%

    Geez, who knew that a ball busting could go so bad? :confused::D
     
  22. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Utilities Get a Failing Grade for Power Outages

    Perhaps you need to read the entire thread and take some reading comprehension classes and expand your limited intellect.
     
  23. Alberto

    Alberto Member+

    Feb 28, 2000
    Northern, New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Once a jack ass troll always a jack ass troll.
     
  24. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL. The timing is awesome here.

    And please, me and Frieslander have a history of taking shots about this. It's in fun with anyone who isn't a humorless twat.
     
  25. YankHibee

    YankHibee Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    indianapolis
    I lost power for 11 days once in NC...I think that was 03 and Duke Power. It seems that it takes a storm and probably some insurance money for the companies to upgrade.
     

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