Protests Planned for Beginning of War

Better yet Joe, don't stop at walking out of class. Why don't you drop out of school to protest the war and donate your tuition money to a deserviing soldier so he can have the same advantages you have in attending Harvard?

 

I'm against this war but once the shite hits the fan, I say, give them hell boys, and get it over with quick.

 

yup...me too.

 

Man, if these guys decide to cause traffic jams during the rush hour commute, I think there could be some big problems. People will get really pissed if protestors start closing down highways and other major roads. Hopefully they'll keep that crazy *************** on the west coast...

 

personally, if some people lay down on the sidewalks and 'play' dead to protest, i am walking right on top of them. no offense but your butt decided to lay on the sidewalk...so don't mind the footprints.

 

I am biased against the war but now that its on, it has to be done fast and furious.

We'll get our chance to monday morning quarterback.

 

Let me give you an analogy. If you, as most normal people do, hate the Mexican NT because they're a dirty, cheatin', full-of-themselves, can't-crack-the-first-11-of-an-average-European-team bunch of divers, would you support them in a WC because your own team has already been knocked out so if someone's going to win it, you'd rather it be your neighbours than, say, Germany?

To cut the crap, you don't stop going to the games because you're team is already out of playoffs.

 

Go back to the Kosovo campaign. When the military operations started, there were huge protests against it (not just from the Serbs). I knew that a riot occured in front of the US consulate in Toronto.

I know there planning a similar thing here. They already have the posters up promoting the event.

 

I do think its important that we keep our finger on the Canadian pulse.

Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

Will someone please send this guy a form thank-you letter?

 

I do think you actually raise a legit concern for those (including myself) considering civil disobediance right about now, particularly the last point about possible backlash. But in the end this would only be an issue if somehow this thing did get bogged down (which I highly doubt) and many American soldiers started coming back in bags. But that's why it's important that so many of those egaging in these actions are either vets themselves, or family of vets and current soldiers. There's also a group of family members of 9/11 victims who have gotten involved. Tough to really lash out at any of the above groups too quickly.

And ultimately, the larger point is that even without ANY protests, it's tough to really tell how the public would react in the case of substantial U.S. casualties. After 9/11, the swell of patriotism and support was to be expected: we were attacked and clearly victimized. I think most people can tell a major difference with this war.

So in the end, I think each American has to exercise his/her constitutional right to voice dissent or assent to what our highly paid temps in Washington are doing. In any case, I don't imagine protests here could really hurt morale in this war anyway. It's going to be a rout from the get-go. If it's not, then morale is going to be in trouble protesters or no...

 

For Christ's sake, even the soldiers have seen that you can support the troops without supporting the war, why can't some of you? If you're moral objection to this war is so petty that it can be ignored simply because "it's going to happen anyway," then you should never have protested in the first place. I support our troops. Most of them had no choice in being there, and a number of them don't agree with the war. They are there because of their line of work. I do NOT support the nitwits in the White House whose coke-induced hallucinations have them thinking they're starring in some hokey John Wayne movie. THAT is what people are protesting against.

 

CWA's March 21st show at Vandenberg AFB has been canceled due to the possibility of war and mass anti-war protests. CWA will instead be running back to back shows on March 22nd and 23rd at the Santa Maria Jungle Gymnastics building. Address and card should be available shortly. Gangrel will be appearing on both shows.

 

As if this forum needed to be dumbed-down anymore.

 

Re: Re: Protests Planned for Beginning of War

Radical *********************s.

Give 'em hell, Doyle.


Alex

 

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Thanks for my morning chuckle.

 

""It is sort of an acknowledgment that we are probably not going to be able to stop the war," said Joe Flood, who is helping to plan a student walkout from classes at Harvard University, in Cambridge, Mass. He said more than 1,000 people have pledged to participate."

How many students actually go to Harvard?

 

Oman.... I respect and appreciate your views. I wish others took your point of view. A very mature post on your part!

 

I may be wrong, but I believe the number is around 18,000 (undergrads and grads)

Which would put the protesters at around 5 percent of the student body...

Kind of like the frequent posters of big soccer....

 

I agree.
What, exactly, does it mean to have vociferous objections to the use of our people this way, THEN when they begin to be ordered to do that very thing, to say "Well, I'm supportive of your actions, and the orders that led to those actions!!" ?

That is...madness.

My (young and stupid, joined to chase two girls and because school was "hard") cousins are there; via e-mail, I told them that I love them, but that I was 100% against their CIC using them this way, and to get home safely, period.

You people expect dissent to go away? Why? Because there has been "honest debate" to which the decision-makers have paid attention?

I wish I could understand you generally, and understand this view specifically, but I simply cannot. Not in America.

 

I actually laughed out loud at that.

 

Any troop who lets protests affects his morale so that he doesn't do his job as well should be discharged. The armed forces aren't for fragile psyche pansies.

 

lol

As did I.

 

When does it become ok to protest the war, Ian?

After the first 500 U.S. casualties? 1,000? 5,000? After the first four weeks, four months?
After the first 10,000 Iraqi casualties? 100,000?

Let me know so I can block out my calendar so as not to harm the sensibilities of the poor grunts trying to concentrate on not having their brains splattered in the sand.

This argument is patently ridiculous. If one believes the war is wrong on D-Day minus 2, it does not magically become ok on D-Day itself. The soldiers will do their jobs regardless of what's happening at home.

It is just as patriotic to show your support for them by protesting their use in this reckless endeavor as it is to support "our boys and girls" regardless of whether or not the task they have been set on is right or proper.

 

These chumps could at least wait a week before starting their protest during the war. Must not be very difficult for them if they can avoid skipping classes at Harvard. Gee - wish the poor grunts in the field had the priviliges this guy has. No the grunts are busy putting on their MOPP suits and doublechecking the filters on their masks and getting a few bites from MREs before they hit the LD/LC. Think he or any of his cronies ever spent any time in service? The closest thing was probably when he threw eggs at the recruiters office from behind the dumpster.

Maybe when they paralyze traffic one of the Iraqi or AQ agents can take em out in an attack.