I was watching CNN or MSNBC, one of the major media conglomerates the other day and they were talking about all the protests to the war. now they were talking about france and they showed footage of two things that really made me lose respect for the anti-war movement. i couldn't really lose much more respect for the french anyway. regardless the two things were 1. a picture of bush's head superimposed on hitler's body with a mustache drawn on. 2. an american flag with a swastika over the stripes this is the french doing this! the ************ing french! does anyone else feel this anger? i mean its one thing to be against the war and to feel strongly etc. but this just made me sick. after the millions of people hitler put to death and the hundreds of thousands of allied forces who died so France didn't have to live under Nazism, that's how they protest?
Perhaps you should take a step back. Was it "the f---ing French"? Or was it "a Frenchman". Or even "two FrenchMEN." Or even three. I haven't seen the pictures. If you were to post those pictures from the "America Rallies for Freedom" thread someone posted, and show them to a Frenchman, they might well say "look at these gap-toothed americans promoting the nuclear annihilation of another country! Typical americans." But we would know their views are not typical, and that not all pro-war protestors have gapped teeth. Wouldn't we?
That's no excuse for the way they protested. For one frenchman to draw a swastika on our flag is sinful. We are, as mentioned above, the country that liberated france from nazism. Shame on who ever did that.
Fine. Shame on them. But change the name of the *******ing post to "One Frenchman draws Swatztika on US Flag...Film at 11."
I just want to highlight the silliness here. Also, if you guys want to do a search on Capt.'s posts, you'll realize that he's lying when he said that this is what made him lose respect. That's like Madonna saying that her wedding night with Guy Ritchie is when she lost her virginity.
there were a handful of pictures of W. as well as a handful of flags with swastikas. i'd say from the footage i saw. more than 5, less than 25. it was crappy b-roll. and you're right what really made me lose respect for france is when they threw their arms up as fast as they could when the germans were marching. (both times)
Right, and I'm sure the places you saw those pictures did NOT use the most controversial ones they could find. I'm sure they selected a fair cross-section. Dude, you're so friggin' naive.
I was going to oppose the war, but then I saw a picture of someone from halfway around the world, and that changed my mind. Yeah, that's plausible. The Internet = taking peer pressure to the 21st century
I once thanked this man personally for serving me the taste of my childhood. This has now gone entirley too far. Chef 'suicide' after critics' attack http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2798627.stm
actually i have worked before as a television photographer and actually i have worked at a newstation and actually i saw quite a few of these flags and posters. don't believe everything is a conspiracy. let me guess, you think the US had forewarning of 9.11 don't you?
Thich Nhat Hanh -- the Vietnamese buddhist monk who was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by MLK -- lives in France. I wonder if he won't set himself on fire to protest this war just like other monks did during the Vietnam war.
I hope not, the guy contributed to a pretty good book [The Raft is Not the Shore] and I would hope instead of lighting himself on fire, he might contribute to another one again. However, if he can convince certain high and mighty Frenchmen or the c**ksuckers who drew a swastika on the US flag to persue this avenue of protest I would like the guy even more.
actually sebakoole the monk i believe you are talking about's name was Thich Quang Duc and he did not immolate him self as protest to the war rather he was protesting the religious persecution under the Diem regime. of course you can say that Diem wouldn't have been in power had it not been for the US but his intentions were not in protest of war. this of course was mistrewn during the war and many impressionable american and viertnamese youths used self immolation to protest the war when in immolation should be used as a form of protest against wholesale religious persecution not so much as a factor of anti-war awareness as it is now commonly associated with. *footnote Ho Tan Ahn immolated himself in November of 2001 to protest the Vietnamese communist parties terrible religious persecution throughout the last decade or so.
I think we got our signals crossed, IrishFS. I didn't write that Thich Nhat Hanh burned himself alive. You're right that Thich Quang Duc burned himself alive in protest of the religious persecution under Diem. However, many other buddhist monks and nuns, inspired by Duc, engaged in self-immolation in protest against the war itself. As for Thich Nhat Hanh, he is an influential buddhist monk who runs a monastery in France. Still with us, and still preaching peace.
youre right i read ". I wonder if he won't set himself on fire to protest this war just like other monks did during the Vietnam war. " and made a bad connection.