Professional Development Leagues thread

Discussion in 'England' started by The Guardian, Aug 16, 2013.

  1. wellno

    wellno Member+

    Jul 31, 2016
    If it's 'unlawful and unenforceable' as the PFA argue then it might not effect things all that much at all.

    It doesn't seem that well thought out an implementation of financial controls to me.
     
  2. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Did we ever get Charlton's scholar intake details confirmed for Youthhawk ?

    U17s
    GK: James Beadle
    GK: Harry Whitling
    CB: Deji Elerewe
    CB: Seydil Toure
    Jason Adegun
    CM: Mason Burstow (Maidstone)
    CM: Matthew Dench (ECU Joondalup)
    WF: Tyreece Campbell
    FWD: Miles Leaburn (Chelsea)
    FWD: Mack Reilly


    u16s/u15s played for u18s
    RB: Ollie Hobden
    RB: Nathan Asiimwe
    CB: Josh Laqeretambua (u15)
    LB: Toby Bowyer
    CM: Karoy Anderson
    CM: Zach Mitchell
    WF: Ryan Huke
    WF: Daniel Kanu
    CF: Tolu Ladapo
     
  3. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Some result for Burton, knocking Southampton out of the Youth Cup
     
  4. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Southampton have only won twice this season, they've gone very young since Christmas (though not last night) which is often a giveaway that they don't like a lot of the players they have in the 17-18 age range. Even had a schoolboy make his U23 debut.
     
  5. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    That's the sort of thing we see at Ipswich.....Jack Manly the last to do so a few weeks back!
     
  6. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Ipswich face Liverpool in the Youth Cup Semi final tonight, live on BT Sport at 6pm.

    Hearing that Harvey Elliott has been cleared by Klopp to play for Liverpool tonight which isn't ideal.

    A few in ITFC squad have been at England camps previously, although not sure any of kicked on to represent for one reason or another - Fraser Alexander was at an U16s camp but is now a 2nd year scholar, Albie Armin been at a couple but suffered with injury, think he is one that could come back into fold as is very good and U16 Nico Valentine is likely to start who has been at camps

    I think our U15 keeper may be on the bench due to injuries, Danny Cullum, and he has been in a few England GK camps.

    Sure Liverpool will have more of interest to this forum on display!
     
  7. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    If Liverpool bring Elliott in for the Semis and Final that's massively against the spirit of the competition. I've never had a problem with older players dropping down because they're still age eligible but to bring a guy in after a full season in professional football is not quite right.
     
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  8. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    It's hard to state view without sounding a bit bitter, but feel especially when they have been on a season long loan away from the club in the EFL it is way too much and not in the spirit - not like he has been on a youth loan somewhere.

    Guess we'll hear soon, but he is apparently keen to play (which is understandable)
     
  9. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Have to say, I quite enjoyed watching that FA Youth Cup game between Villa and West Brom. Some really good talent on show from both sides but Villa just stand out to be honest and some of their football was great to watch. Some really interesting players to watch over the next season or so. Didn’t see the the Liverpool v Ipswich game so who will be favourites for the final? I think it will take a good side to beat Villa from what I’ve seen.
     
  10. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Villa have been favourites since Man City went out, arguably before then. They're such a good team.
     
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  11. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019


    Spurs' intake for next season.

    Pele Arganese McDermott is some name by the way.
     
  12. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Has anyone seen Donley play? I've heard a fair bit of hype about him now.
     
  13. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  14. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Barry & Young can definitely get a lot of joy out of Koumetio you sense. He's physically a monster but very error prone & can dawdle on the ball.

    Great game so far.
     
  15. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
  16. ADM99

    ADM99 Member+

    Apr 28, 2019
    Notts Forest & Birmingham both awarded Cat 1 status.
     
  17. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    28 Cat 1 teams seems bloated for the intention of Categorisation and there are definitely arguments that 2-4 teams ought to be contracted, but that's for another day.

    Means there are also just 16 teams left at Cat 2 level and an ever-dwindling fixture list, the North loses two teams so as it stands you'd expect maybe Ipswich to move up if nobody else joins, they're technically the most Northern team left, but it does them no favours. Peterborough and Luton are trying to move up to Cat 2 so that'd be a straight swap perhaps.
     
  18. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    If the purpose of the category system is to encourage teams to invest in their facilities in order to make the grade then it seems to be working. Maybe an even high level category should be thought about.
     
  19. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    they should be more creative with the fixtures. I don't think Cat1 sides would be that annoyed by some form of schedule that allows for Cat2 sides getting games v Cat1's in a more formal fashion. Especially with the squad sizes in Cat1. Some form of 'League Cup' between Cat1 + Cat2 sides may work, especially for the non-UYL sides.
     
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  20. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Definitely. They did that in the Premier League Cup for 23s, and even invited Cat 3 teams, but they could do that with U18s too, expand the U18 (or U17 if it stays that way) PL Cup into a similar programme, just maybe not 6 group stage games H+A. Stick to three because they have the FAYC taking up space in the calendar.
     
  21. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Real concerns for Ipswich now as the games programmes gets weaker and weaker - it's bad enough being in a Southern conference that includes sides South Wales let alone if we have to move to North
     
  22. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    tbf you and Swansea meet in the Midlands for your league games but yeah, the North section would not be helpful for Ipswich.
     
  23. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    This is the first season we have done that though, a few years back 7 or 8 of the same boys had to travel to South Wales 4 times in 6 weeks for 18s and 23s games vs Cardiff and Swansea.

    Just the sort of thing that makes recruitment more difficult if every other week it is long journeys and over night stays, plus cost of that too.

    Hopefully new owners do what is required to get us to Category 1 as it is overdue and we should be good enough to compete there over time
     
  24. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    A nice thread from Nick Levitt about the changes in youth football 9 years ago and probably has helped with the better standard of players we currently see today with the kids coming through along with the EPPP. I know more can be done and the FA, coaches etc will always have to keep on thinking about new initiatives to keep on advancing and produce even more top talent but thought this was a good read.

     
  25. BarryfromEastenders

    Staff Member

    Jul 6, 2008
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