Hello, yes I think the list was fine up to week 26 but then there was an error in the numbering as I missed an issue - I blame the stress of moving house I have five sets of Match Facts missing although @Pavlin Arnaudov has found one of them. Good work! The ones marked as 'Missing' are the dates on the cover of the magazine. Ratings for February 9 to 15 would be in the first missing issue as they usually go up to the previous Saturday. 1985/86 Missing 22 Feb 1986 [week 27] 1-29 Mar [wks 28-32] 5 Apr [wk 33 – no Match Facts] Missing 12 Apr [wk 34] 19 Apr [wk 35] Missing 26 Apr & 3 May [wks 36 & 37] 10 & 17 May [wks 38 & 39] Missing 24 May [wk 40] This is the real week 38 - this is everything I have for the season now!!
Which exact magazine dates are we looking for? 1985/86 Missing 22 Feb 1986 [week 27] 5 Apr [wk 33 – no Match Facts] Missing 12 Apr [wk 34] Missing 26 Apr & 3 May [wks 36 & 37] Missing 24 May [wk 40] Are these?
Hi @Pavlin Arnaudov - yes those are the missing magazine dates. I will look for them as well, let us know if you find any!
I've made a start now on compiling the full set of Match magazine ratings using a spreadsheet, and when I've finished @vyncy will provide me with his own template to use and 1st Division 1983/84 will be able to go into the collection of DBS Calcio data available on the new site at some point. I thought since the teams have 42 games then it could be a good idea to split things into six sections (in effect splitting each half of the season into three parts). Here is a summary for the first of those (all teams have played 7 games at this point; I'm showing ratings by club, ordered by league position as things stood after those games, with top 4 rated players with over 50% of their team's games played listed for each club, but all players with over 50% and with an average of 7 or above included too - some clubs have more than 4): West Ham United: Trevor Brooking 7.17 (6 games), Alvin Martin, Geoff Pike and David Swindlehurst 7.00 (7 games) Manchester United: Bryan Robson 7.33 (6 games), Ray Wilkins 7.29 (7 games), Arnold Muhren 7.00 (7 games), Frank Stapleton 6.86 (7 games) Southampton: Peter Shilton 7.71 (7 games), Danny Wallace 7.14 (7 games), Steve Moran 7.00 (5 games), Steve Williams 7.00 (6 games) Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish 7.43 (7 games), Mark Lawrenson, Sammy Lee and Ian Rush 7.29 (7 games), Graeme Souness 7.00 (7 games) Ipswich Town: Eric Gates 7.86 (7 games), Paul Mariner 7.43 (7 games), Kevin O'Callaghan 7.14 (7 games), Paul Cooper 7.00 (7 games) Aston Villa: Nigel Spink 7.86 (7 games), Colin Gibson 7.57 (7 games), Gary Shaw 7.25 (4 games), Steve McMahon 7.17 (6 games), Dennis Mortimer 7.00 (6 games) Nottingham Forest: Steve Wigley 7.25 (4 games), Viv Anderson 7.14 (7 games), Ian Bowyer and Hans van Breukelen 7.00 (7 games) Arsenal: David O'Leary 7.43 (7 games), Charlie Nicholas 7.29 (7 games), Tony Woodcock 7.17 (6 games), Graham Rix 7.14 (7 games), Pat Jennings 7.00 (7 games) QPR: Clive Allen and Terry Fenwick 7.33 (6 games), Peter Hucker 7.29 (7 games), John Gregory and Gary Waddock 7.00 (7 games), Bob Hazell 7.00 (6 games) West Bromwich Albion: Garry Thompson 6.86 (7 games), Cyrille Regis 6.71 (7 games), Gary Owen 6.67 (6 games), Romeo Zondervan 6.50 (6 games) Coventry City: Terry Gibson 7.00 (7 games), Nicky Platnauer 6.86 (7 games), Gerry Daly and Ashley Grimes 6.60 (5 games) Birmingham City: Noel Blake and Billy Wright 7.00 (7 games), Robert Hopkins 6.80 (5 games), Tony Rees 6.71 (7 games) Luton Town: Paul Walsh 7.57 (7 games), David Moss 7.29 (7 games), Mal Donaghy and Ricky Hill 7.00 (7 games) Everton: Kevin Sheedy 7.43 (7 games), David Johnson 7.00 (4 games), Trevor Steven 6.86 (7 games), Adrian Heath 6.50 (6 games) Watford: John Barnes 7.43 (7 games), Nigel Callaghan and Jan Lohman 6.86 (7 games), Paul Franklin 6.80 (5 games) Tottenham Hotspur: Steve Perryman 7.14 (7 games), Glenn Hoddle 7.00 (4 games), Gary Stevens 6.83 (6 games), Chris Hughton 6.80 (5 games) Sunderland: Paul Bracewell 7.25 (4 games), Ian Atkins 7.00 (7 games), Gordon Chisholm 6.86 (7 games), Chris Turner and Colin West 6.71 (7 games) Notts County: Rachid Harkouk 7.14 (7 games), Martin O'Neill 7.00 (7 games), John Chiedozie 6.86 (7 games), Seamus McDonagh 6.71 (7 games) Norwich City: Chris Woods 7.29 (7 games), Dave Watson 7.14 (7 games), Keith Bertschin and Peter Mendham 7.00 (7 games) Stoke City: Ian Painter 7.43 (7 games), Mickey Thomas 6.67 (6 games), Mark Chamberlain 6.60 (5 games), Robbie James 6.57 (7 games) Wolverhampton Wanderers: Andy Gray 6.60 (5 games), John Burridge 6.57 (7 games), John Hunphrey 6.43 (7 games), Peter Daniel 6.40 (5 games) Leicester City: Gary Lineker 7.14 (7 games), David Rennie 6.75 (4 games), Kevin MacDonald 6.57 (7 games), Steve Lynex 6.50 (6 games)
Continuing the 1983/84 Match magazine ratings summary now, with the 2nd part (ratings for the period covering the second set of 7 scheduled games: note though that at this point Southampton have played 13 games, and Norwich have played 15 - Leicester have one 'extra' game vs Norwich but also one postponed game with Southampton so are on the same number of games played as the rest of the teams): Liverpool: Graeme Souness 7.57 (7 games), Ian Rush 7.43 (7 games), Kenny Dalglish 7.14 (7 games), Alan Hansen and Sammy Lee 7.00 (7 games), Steve Nicol 7.00 (6 games) West Ham United: Alan Devonshire 7.29 (7 games), Trevor Brooking 6.83 (6 games), Alvin Martin and Phil Parkes 6.71 (7 games) Manchester United: Arthur Graham and Ray Wilkins 7.29 (7 games), Arthur Albiston, Bryan Robson and Frank Stapleton 7.00 (7 games) Tottenham Hotspur: Glenn Hoddle 8.14 (7 games), Steve Archibald 7.43 (7 games), Steve Perryman 7.14 (7 games), Gary Stevens 7.00 (7 games) Coventry City: Micky Gynn 7.00 (5 games), Trevor Peake 6.86 (7 games), Dave Bennett 6.83 (6 games), Ashley Grimes 6.71 (7 games) Aston Villa: Peter Withe 7.14 (7 games), Nigel Spink 6.83 (6 games), Allan Evans and Dennis Mortimer 6.71 (7 games) QPR: Ian Stewart 7.00 (7 games), Gary Micklewhite 6.71 (7 games), Simon Stainrod 6.57 (7 games), John Gregory 6.50 (6 games), Alan McDonald 6.50 (4 games) Nottingham Forest: Viv Anderson 7.29 (7 games), Colin Todd 7.17 (6 games), Steve Wigley 7.00 (7 games), Garry Birtles and Colin Walsh 6.75 (4 games) Southampton: Steve Williams 6.83 (6 games), Ken Armstrong 6.60 (5 games), Nick Holmes and Peter Shilton 6.50 (6 games) Luton Town: Paul Walsh 7.33 (6 games), Paul Elliott and Ricky Hill 7.14 (7 games), Brian Horton 7.00 (5 games) Arsenal: Tony Woodcock 8.25 (4 games), Stewart Robson 7.00 (7 games), Charlie Nicholas and Kenny Sansom 6.86 (7 games) Ipswich Town: Trevor Putney 7.40 (5 games), Kevin O'Callaghan 7.14 (7 games), Paul Mariner and John Wark 6.71 (7 games) Norwich City: Peter Mendham 7.50 (8 games), Louie Donowa 7.25 (8 games), Mike Channon 7.17 (6 games), Keith Bertschin and Chris Woods 7.00 (8 games) West Bromwich Albion: Cyrille Regis 7.75 (4 games), Gary Owen 7.50 (6 games), Garry Thompson 7.14 (7 games), Ken McNaught 6.57 (7 games) Birmingham City: Howard Gayle 7.14 (7 games), Noel Blake 7.00 (7 games), Billy Wright 6.86 (7 games), Mick Halsall 6.60 (5 games) Sunderland: Leighton James 7.33 (6 games), Paul Bracewell 7.29 (7 games), Ian Atkins 7.00 (6 games), Chris Turner 7.00 (7 games) Everton: Peter Reid 7.75 (4 games), Trevor Steven 7.40 (5 games), Kevin Sheedy and Neville Southall 6.71 (7 games) Stoke City: Robbie James 7.00 (7 games), Peter Fox 6.86 (7 games), David McAughtrie 6.71 (7 games), Mickey Thomas 6.60 (5 games) Notts County: John Chiedozie 7.00 (6 games), Seamus McDonagh 6.86 (7 games), David Hunt 6.67 (6 games), Tristan Benjamin 6.60 (5 games) Watford: John Barnes 7.00 (6 games), Nigel Callaghan 7.00 (7 games), Wilf Rostron 6.86 (7 games), Steve Sherwood 6.83 (6 games) Leicester City: Alan Smith 7.20 (5 games), Steve Lynex 7.14 (7 games), Mark Wallington 7.00 (7 games), Paul Ramsey 6.86 (7 games) Wolverhampton Wanderers: Paul Bradshaw and Kenny Hibbitt 7.14 (7 games), Andy Blair 6.25 (4 games), Alan Dodd 6.00 (7 games), Dale Rudge 6.00 (5 games) So that's just for the 2nd set of games - over the next days I'll come back and do a quick 'leaderboard' summary (at least showing players with 50%+ games played and 7.25+ average rating so far overall), taking into account both the first 2 periods....
Showing players that had an average of 7 or above, playing at least 6 games, after 'phase 2' (out of 6) - as per the point I had stopped at to make the post above: Glenn Hoddle (Tottenham) - 7.73 (11 games) Tony Woodcock (Arsenal) - 7.60 (10 games) Howard Gayle (Birmingham) - 7.50 (10 games) Paul Walsh (Luton) - 7.46 (13 games) Peter Reid (Everton) - 7.43 (7 games) Nigel Spink (Aston Villa) - 7.38 (13 games) Ian Rush (Liverpool) - 7.36 (14 games) Paul Rideout (Aston Villa) - 7.33 (6 games) David Moss (Luton) - 7.30 (10 games) Kenny Dalglish (Liverpool) - 7.29 (14 games) Graeme Souness (Liverpool) - 7.29 (14 games) Ray Wilkins (Man Utd) - 7.29 (14 games) Peter Mendham (Norwich) - 7.27 (15 games) Paul Bracewell (Sunderland) - 7.27 (11 games) Louie Donowa (Norwich) - 7.25 (8 games) John Barnes (Watford) - 7.23 (13 games) Viv Anderson (Forest) - 7.21 (14 games) Bryan Robson (Man Utd) - 7.16 (13 games) Peter Shilton (Southampton) - 7.15 (13 games) Kevin O'Callaghan (Ipswich) - 7.14 (14 games) Sammy Lee (Liverpool) - 7.14 (14 games) Steve Perryman (Tottenham) - 7.14 (14 games) Paul Bradshaw (Wolves) - 7.14 (7 games) Kenny Hibbitt (Wolves) - 7.14 (7 games) Chris Woods (Norwich) - 7.13 (15 games) Leighton James (Sunderland) - 7.13 (8 games) Ian Painter (Stoke) - 7.11 (9 games) Steve Archibald (Tottenham) - 7.10 (10 games) Steve Wigley (Forest) - 7.09 (11 games) Cyrille Regis (West Brom) - 7.09 (11 games) Colin Gibson (Aston Villa) - 7.08 (12 games) Trevor Steven (Everton) - 7.08 (12 games) Eric Gates (Ipswich) - 7.08 (13 games) Gary Owen (West Brom) - 7.08 (12 games) Charlie Nicholas (Arsenal) - 7.07 (14 games) Kevin Sheedy (Everton) - 7.07 (14 games) Paul Mariner (Ipswich) - 7.07 (14 games) Ricky Hill (Luton) - 7.07 (14 games) David O'Leary (Arsenal) - 7.00 (13 games) Peter Withe (Aston Villa) - 7.00 (14 games) Noel Blake (Birmingham) - 7.00 (14 games) Trevor Putney (Ipswich) - 7.00 (9 games) Gary Lineker (Leicester) - 7.00 (11 games) Mark Lawrenson (Liverpool) - 7.00 (14 games) Steve Nicol (Liverpool) - 7.00 (6 games) Keith Bertschin (Norwich) - 7.00 (15 games) Dave Watson (Norwich) - 7.00 (15 games) Hans van Breukelen (Forest) - 7.00 (10 games) Bob Hazell (QPR) - 7.00 (6 games) *but his average goes a bit lower with Leicester games added Ian Atkins (Sunderland) - 7.00 (13 games) Garry Thompson (West Brom) - 7.00 (14 games) Trevor Brooking (West Ham) - 7.00 (12 games) Alan Devonshire (West Ham) - 7.00 (14 games)
Re: the players of Man Utd, Forest, QPR and Tottenham, I thought it could be a nice extra bonus at this point to also show players down to an average of 6.50 or more (with 6 or more games still), in addition to those quoted above from my earlier post, as those are the clubs there might be the most interest in from the regular posters and contributors (considering Oldham Athletic weren't yet in the top division in this time period!), but if I'd done things the way I had for other seasons normally then I wouldn't have listed Hazell earlier (given his average goes below 7 with Leicester games - it goes to 6.73 so as you can see he was in a way the top-rated 'QPR player' at that point but in another way not the top-rated player who had played for QPR overall) Man Utd: Frank Stapleton - 6.93 (14 games) Arthur Graham - 6.86 (14 games) Mike Duxbury - 6.82 (11 games) Arnold Muhren - 6.82 (11 games) Arthur Albiston - 6.57 (14 games) Nottm Forest: Colin Todd - 6.77 (13 games) Ian Bowyer - 6.71 (14 games) Garry Birtles - 6.60 (10 games) Peter Davenport - 6.58 (12 games) Steve Hodge - 6.50 (14 games) Frans Thijssen - 6.50 (6 games) Colin Walsh - 6.50 (10 games) QPR: Ian Stewart - 6.92 (12 games) Clive Allen - 6.91 (11 games) Peter Hucker - 6.86 (14 games) Terry Fenwick - 6.85 (13 games) John Gregory - 6.77 (13 games) Simon Stainrod - 6.64 (14 games) Gary Micklewhite - 6.50 (14 games) Gary Waddock - 6.50 (14 games) Tottenham: Gary Stevens - 6.92 (13 games) Danny Thomas - 6.83 (6 games) Mark Falco - 6.79 (14 games) Chris Hughton - 6.75 (12 games) Gary Mabbutt - 6.67 (12 games) Gary Brooke - 6.57 (7 games) Ray Clemence - 6.57 (14 games) Graham Roberts - 6.57 (14 games) I have all players ratings available on my spreadsheet though of course, so in theory can answer any other queries about any other particular players at that point, when I next log on again (tomorrow probably).
Here is the summary for the 3rd set of games now (Stoke and QPR played one game less than the others, and Leicester and Southampton one game more): Liverpool: Kenny Dalglish 7.00 (6 games), Steve Nicol, Ian Rush and Graeme Souness 7.00 ( 7 games) Manchester United: Bryan Robson 8.25 (4 games), Frank Stapleton 7.29 (7 games), Ray Wilkins 7.14 (7 games), Norman Whiteside 6.75 (4 games) West Ham United: Alan Devonshire 7.71 (7 games), Steve Walford 7.29 (7 games), Alvin Martin 6.86 (7 games), David Swindlehurst 6.80 (5 games) Southampton: Steve Williams 7.38 (8 games), Danny Wallace 7.25 (8 games), Rueben Agboola and Mick Mills 6.83 (6 games) Nottingham Forest: Garry Birtles 7.43 (7 games), Chris Fairclough 7.29 (7 games), Steve Wigley 7.17 (6 games), Ian Bowyer and Peter Davenport 6.86 (7 games) Luton Town: Paul Elliott 7.43 (7 games), Ray Daniel 7.40 (5 games), Ricky Hill 7.29 (7 games), Trevor Aylott 7.17 (6 games), Mitchell Thomas 7.00 (4 games), Paul Walsh 7.00 (7 games) Aston Villa: Mark Walters 7.00 (7 games), Dennis Mortimer 6.71 (7 games), Paul Rideout 6.67 (6 games), Steve McMahon 6.60 (5 games) Coventry City: Sam Allardyce and Dave Bennett 7.29 (7 games), Terry Gibson 7.20 (5 games), Micky Gynn 7.17 (6 games), Trevor Peake 7.14 (7 games), Gerry Daly 7.00 (5 games), Stuart Pearce 7.00 (7 games) QPR: Jeremy Charles 6.67 (3 games), Peter Hucker and Steve Wicks 6.67 (6 games), Terry Fenwick and Ian Stewart 6.50 (6 games) Norwich City: Chris Woods 7.43 (7 games), John Deehan 7.29 (7 games), John Devine 7.00 (4 games), Louie Donowa 7.00 (7 games) Tottenham Hotspur: Steve Archibald and Danny Thomas 6.83 (6 games), Steve Perryman 6.71 (7 games), Glenn Hoddle 6.67 (6 games) Sunderland: Paul Bracewell 7.57 (7 games), Barry Venison 6.71 (7 games), Gary Rowell 6.60 (5 games), Nick Pickering 6.50 (from 6 games, with one other grade missing) Arsenal: Tommy Caton 6.83 (6 games), Paul Davis and Tony Woodcock 6.71 (7 games), Raphael Meade 6.67 (6 games) Ipswich Town: Terry Butcher 7.33 (6 games), Kevin O'Callaghan 6.83 (6 games), Eric Gates, Paul Mariner, Steve McCall and John Wark 6.71 (7 games) West Bromwich Albion: Tony Morley 6.60 (5 games - goes to 6.83 from 6 games including game for Aston Villa), Michael Forsyth 6.50 (4 games), Paul Barron and Ken McNaught 6.43 (7 games) Everton: Andy Gray 6.67 (6 games), Peter Reid and Neville Southall 6.43 (7 games), Alan Irvine and Kevin Sheedy 6.29 (7 games) Watford: Steve Sims 7.29 (7 games), Mo Johnston 7.14 (7 games), Nigel Callaghan 6.86 (7 games), Wilf Rostron 6.71 (7 games) Leicester City: Steve Lynex 7.13 (8 games), Alan Smith and Ian Wilson 6.75 (8 games), Bob Hazell and Paul Ramsey 6.71 (7 games) Birmingham City: Noel Blake 7.00 (6 games), Tony Coton 6.86 (7 games), Mick Harford and Billy Wright 6.57 (7 games) Notts County: John Chiedozie 7.14 (7 games), Pedro Richards and Nigel Worthington 6.86 (7 games), Trevor Christie, Seamus McDonagh and Martin O'Neill 6.71 (7 games) Stoke City: Robbie James 7.20 (5 games), Mickey Thomas 7.00 (4 games), Mark Chamberlain and Peter Fox 6.83 (6 games) Wolverhampton Wanderers: Daniel Crainie 6.43 (7 games), Mel Eves 6.00 (4 games), John Pender 6.00 (7 games), John Burridge 5.75 (4 games)
At this point I can do a 1983/84 Match ratings mid-season summary post, corresponding to exactly the halfway point (a few games earlier than the point Match's own half-term report was based on I think, so the numbers shouldn't be matching the ones published in that in any case) and covering basically all of the 1983 games and none of the 1984 ones (but Leicester and Norwich have played 22 games and Stoke and QPR have played 20 games): (11 games minimum; averages of 6.60 or more included, so it's the one quite extensive mid-season 1983/84 average ratings summary we have, given I could only find something from The People from April at the earliest) Goalkeepers Chris Woods (Norwich) - 7.23 (22 games) Nigel Spink (Aston Villa) - 7.05 (19 games) Peter Shilton (Southampton) - 6.95 (21 games) Hans van Breukelen (Forest) - 6.80 (15 games) Peter Hucker (QPR) - 6.80 (20 games) Seamus McDonagh (Notts County) - 6.76 (21 games) Phil Parkes (West Ham) - 6.76 (21 games) Chris Turner (Sunderland) - 6.71 (21 games) Pat Jennings (Arsenal) - 6.67 (21 games) Les Sealey (Luton) - 6.67 (21 games) Peter Fox (Stoke) - 6.65 (20 games) Tony Coton (Birmingham) - 6.62 (21 games) Defenders Paul Elliott (Luton) - 7.10 (21 games) Chris Fairclough (Forest) - 7.09 (11 games) Viv Anderson (Forest) - 7.05 (21 games) Noel Blake (Birmingham) - 7.00 (20 games) Dave Watson (Norwich) - 6.95 (22 games) David O'Leary (Arsenal) - 6.94 (16 games) Steve Sims (Watford) - 6.93 (14 games) Colin Gibson (Aston Villa) - 6.92 (13 games) Alan Hansen (Liverpool) - 6.86 (21 games) Mark Lawrenson (Liverpool) - 6.86 (21 games) Alvin Martin (West Ham) - 6.86 (21 games) Danny Thomas (Tottenham) - 6.83 (12 games) Billy Wright (Birmingham) - 6.81 (21 games) Steve Walford (West Ham) - 6.81 (21 games) Ian Atkins (Sunderland) - 6.80 (20 games) Colin Todd (Forest) - 6.77 (13 games) Trevor Peake (Coventry) - 6.75 (20 games) Terry Butcher (Ipswich) - 6.75 (20 games) Gary Stevens (Tottenham) - 6.75 (20 games) Terry Fenwick (QPR) - 6.74 (19 games) Bob Hazell (QPR/Leicester) - 6.72 (18 games) Mick Mills (Southampton) - 6.71 (14 games) Kirk Stephens (Luton) - 6.70 (20 games) Greg Downs (Norwich) - 6.68 (22 games) Kenny Sansom (Arsenal) - 6.67 (21 games) Sam Allardyce (Coventry) - 6.67 (15 games) Mike Duxbury (Man Utd) - 6.67 (18 games) Gordon Chisholm (Sunderland) - 6.67 (21 games) Mark Wright (Southampton) - 6.64 (11 games) Chris Hughton (Tottenham) - 6.63 (16 games) Mal Donaghy (Luton) - 6.62 (21 games) Wilf Rostron (Watford) - 6.60 (20 games) Midfielders Bryan Robson (Man Utd) - 7.41 (17 games) Paul Bracewell (Sunderland) - 7.39 (18 games) Glenn Hoddle (Tottenham) - 7.35 (17 games) Ray Wilkins (Man Utd) - 7.24 (21 games) Alan Devonshire (West Ham) - 7.24 (21 games) Graeme Souness (Liverpool) - 7.19 (21 games) Ricky Hill (Luton) - 7.14 (21 games) Peter Mendham (Norwich) - 7.14 (22 games) Louie Donowa (Norwich) - 7.13 (15 games) Steve Wigley (Forest) - 7.12 (17 games) Steve Williams (Southampton) - 7.10 (20 games) Sammy Lee (Liverpool) - 7.05 (21 games) Dave Bennett (Coventry) - 7.00 (14 games) Micky Gynn (Coventry) - 7.00 (12 games) Trevor Steven (Everton) - 7.00 (13 games) Steve Nicol (Liverpool) - 7.00 (13 games) Steve Perryman (Tottenham) - 7.00 (21 games) Peter Reid (Everton) - 6.93 (14 games) Nigel Callaghan (Watford) - 6.90 (21 games) Robbie James (Stoke) - 6.89 (19 games) Stewart Robson (Arsenal) - 6.82 (17 games) Steve McMahon (Aston Villa) - 6.82 (17 games) Kevin Sheedy (Everton) - 6.81 (21 games) Dennis Mortimer (Aston Villa) - 6.80 (20 games) Arthur Graham (Man Utd) - 6.80 (20 games) Brian Horton (Luton) - 6.79 (19 games) Ian Stewart (QPR) - 6.78 (18 games) John Wark (Ipswich) - 6.76 (21 games) Ian Bowyer (Forest) - 6.76 (21 games) Gary Owen (West Brom) - 6.76 (17 games) Frankie Bunn (Luton) - 6.75 (12 games, with one other grade missing) Rachid Harkouk (Notts County) - 6.75 (16 games) Trevor Brooking (West Ham) - 6.74 (19 games) Graham Rix (Arsenal) - 6.73 (15 games) Gerry Daly (Coventry) - 6.73 (11 games) Craig Johnston (Liverpool) - 6.73 (15 games) John Devine (Norwich) - 6.73 (15 games) Mickey Thomas (Stoke) - 6.73 (15 games) Geoff Pike (West Ham) - 6.71 (17 games) Ashley Grimes (Coventry) - 6.69 (16 games) Trevor Putney (Ipswich) - 6.69 (13 games) Arnold Muhren (Man Utd) - 6.69 (16 games) Martin O'Neill (Notts County) - 6.67 (21 games) Mark Chamberlain (Stoke) - 6.67 (18 games) Gary Mabbutt (Tottenham) - 6.67 (12 games) Tony Morley (Aston Villa/West Brom) - 6.64 (11 games) Steve Hodge (Forest) - 6.60 (20 games) Gary Micklewhite (QPR) - 6.60 (15 games) Forwards Paul Walsh (Luton) - 7.30 (20 games) Tony Woodcock (Arsenal) - 7.24 (17 games) Ian Rush (Liverpool) - 7.24 (21 games) Kenny Dalglish (Liverpool) - 7.20 (20 games) Kevin O'Callaghan (Ipswich) - 7.05 (20 games) Frank Stapleton (Man Utd) - 7.05 (21 games) Paul Rideout (Aston Villa) - 7.00 (12 games) John Deehan (Norwich) - 7.00 (16 games) John Chiedozie (Notts County) - 7.00 (20 games) Steve Archibald (Tottenham) - 7.00 (16 games) Eric Gates (Ipswich) - 6.95 (20 games) Paul Mariner (Ipswich) - 6.95 (21 games) Steve Lynex (Leicester) - 6.95 (21 games) Danny Wallace (Southampton) - 6.95 (21 games) John Barnes (Watford) - 6.95 (20 games) Garry Birtles (Forest) - 6.94 (17 games) Ian Painter (Stoke) - 6.92 (13 games) Clive Allen (QPR) - 6.91 (11 games) Colin Gibson (Coventry) - 6.89 (18 games) Keith Bertschin (Norwich) - 6.86 (22 games) Mark Walters (Aston Villa) - 6.85 (20 games) Peter Withe (Aston Villa) - 6.84 (19 games) Mike Channon (Norwich) - 6.84 (19 games) Howard Gayle (Birmingham) - 6.80 (15 games) Cyrille Regis (West Brom) - 6.80 (15 games) Garry Thompson (West Brom) - 6.79 (19 games) Gary Lineker (Leicester) - 6.78 (18 games) David Swindlehurst (West Ham) - 6.74 (19 games) Charlie Nicholas (Arsenal) - 6.71 (21 games) Brian Stein (Luton) - 6.71 (21 games) Mark Falco (Tottenham) - 6.70 (20 games) Peter Davenport (Forest) - 6.68 (19 games) Leighton James (Sunderland) - 6.67 (15 games) Alan Smith (Leicester) - 6.60 (20 games)
Summary for the 4th set of games now: Liverpool: Graeme Souness 7.75 (4 games), Mark Lawrenson 7.71 (7 games), Craig Johnston 7.57 (7 games), Alan Hansen and Ian Rush 7.43 (7 games), Steve Nicol 7.00 (6 games) Nottingham Forest: Steve Hodge 7.29 (7 games), Chris Fairclough 7.00 (7 games), Hans van Breukelen 6.86 (7 games), Ian Wallace 6.83 (6 games) Manchester United: Bryan Robson 7.33 (6 games), Ray Wilkins 7.29 (7 games), Remi Moses 6.86 (7 games), Mike Duxbury and Norman Whiteside 6.71 (7 games) West Ham United: Ray Stewart 7.14 (7 games), Paul Allen 7.00 (4 games), Bobby Barnes 7.00 (6 games), Steve Walford 7.00 (7 games) QPR: Ian Stewart 7.00 (7 games), Terry Fenwick 6.57 (7 games), Gary Waddock and Steve Wicks 6.43 (7 games) Southampton: Steve Moran 7.17 (6 games), Steve Williams 7.00 (4 games), David Armstrong and Mark Wright 6.67 (6 games) Tottenham Hotspur: Glenn Hoddle 8.00 (6 games), Graham Roberts 7.60 (5 games), Steve Archibald 7.17 (6 games), Mark Falco 7.14 (7 games) Luton Town: Ricky Hill 7.67 (3 games), Paul Walsh 7.17 (6 games), Mitchell Thomas 7.00 ( 6 games), Mal Donaghy 6.67 (6 games) Watford: Steve Sims 7.17 (6 games), Mo Johnston 6.86 (7 games), George Reilly 6.80 (5 games), Kenny Jackett and Steve Sherwood 6.71 (7 games) Norwich City: John Deehan 7.00 (5 games), Mike Channon, Peter Mendham and Chris Woods 6.83 (6 games) Coventry City: Gerry Daly 7.00 (3 games), Steve Hunt 7.00 (6 games), Nicky Platnauer 6.67 (3 games), Dave Bennett 6.50 (6 games), Ian Butterworth 6.50 (4 games) Aston Villa: Steve McMahon 7.00 (5 games), Dennis Mortimer 6.83 (6 games), Nigel Spink 6.80 (5 games), Mark Walters 6.67 (3 games) Arsenal: Kenny Sansom 7.29 (7 games), Pat Jennings 7.00 (7 games), Tommy Caton 6.71 (7 games), Tony Woodcock 6.57 (7 games) Everton: Adrian Heath 7.60 (5 games), Peter Reid and Neville Southall 7.00 ( 5 games), Derek Mountfield 6.80 (5 games) Sunderland: Ian Atkins 7.17 (6 games), Gordon Chisholm 7.00 (3 games), Barry Venison 7.00 (5 games), Shaun Elliott, Nick Pickering and Chris Turner 6.83 (6 games) Ipswich Town: Kevin O'Callaghan 7.00 (4 games), Terry Butcher 6.50 (6 games), Trevor Putney 6.40 (5 games), Eric Gates 6.25 (4 games) West Bromwich Albion: Garry Thompson 7.00 (5 games), Paul Barron 6.67 (6 games), Barry Cowdrill 6.50 (4 games), Ken McNaught 6.33 (6 games) Birmingham City: Howard Gayle 7.00 (4 games), Noel Blake 6.83 (6 games), Mick Harford 6.67 (6 games), Robert Hopkins and Billy Wright 6.50 (6 games) Leicester City: Gary Lineker 7.20 (5 games), Alan Smith 7.00 (5 games), Steve Lynex 6.80 (5 games), Ian Banks and Bobby Smith 6.60 (5 games) Stoke City: Peter Fox 7.13 (8 games), Robbie James and Sammy McIlroy 6.75 (8 games), Christopher Maskery 6.71 (7 games) Notts County: John Chiedozie 7.67 (6 games), Martin O'Neill 7.33 (3 games), Pedro Richards 7.00 (6 games), Mick Leonard and Nigel Worthington 6.33 (3 games) Wolverhampton Wanderers: Daniel Crainie 7.00 (6 games), John Pender 6.80 (5 games), John Burridge 6.67 (6 games), Alan Dodd and Sammy Troughton 6.33 (6 games), Geoffrey Palmer 6.33 (from 3 games, with another game without rating)
Correction (I had had Rostron's total for this phase divided by 8 instead of 7 on my spreadsheet I realised): Watford: Steve Sims 7.17 (6 games), Mo Johnston and Wilf Rostron 6.86 (7 games), George Reilly 6.80 (5 games)
Here is another overall mini-summary after that 4th set of games (after phase 4 out of 6), showing players with an average of 6.70 or more, from 13 or more games: Glenn Hoddle (Tottenham) - 7.52 (23 games) Bryan Robson (Man Utd) - 7.39 (23 games) Ian Rush (Liverpool) - 7.29 (28 games) Graeme Souness (Liverpool) - 7.28 (25 games) Paul Walsh (Luton) - 7.27 (26 games) Ray Wilkins (Man Utd) - 7.25 (28 games) Kenny Dalglish (Liverpool) - 7.24 (21 games) Ricky Hill (Luton) - 7.21 (24 games) Paul Bracewell (Sunderland) - 7.21 (24 games) Steve Wigley (Forest) - 7.17 (18 games) John Chiedozie (Notts County) - 7.15 (26 games) Chris Woods (Norwich) - 7.14 (28 games) Alan Devonshire (West Ham) - 7.14 (22 games) Steve Williams (Southampton) - 7.08 (24 games) Mark Lawrenson (Liverpool) - 7.07 (28 games) Peter Mendham (Norwich) - 7.07 (28 games) Chris Fairclough (Forest) - 7.06 (18 games) Steve Archibald (Tottenham) - 7.05 (22 games) Tony Woodcock (Arsenal) - 7.04 (24 games) Kevin O'Callaghan (Ipswich) - 7.04 (24 games) Nigel Spink (Aston Villa) - 7.00 (24 games) Trevor Steven (Everton) - 7.00 (13 games) Alan Hansen (Liverpool) - 7.00 (28 games) Craig Johnston (Liverpool) - 7.00 (22 games) Sammy Lee (Liverpool) - 7.00 (28 games) Steve Nicol (Liverpool) - 7.00 (19 games) John Deehan (Norwich) - 7.00 (21 games) Steve Sims (Watford) - 7.00 (20 games) Noel Blake (Birmingham) - 6.96 (26 games) Viv Anderson (Forest) - 6.96 (28 games) Peter Reid (Everton) - 6.95 (19 games) Louie Donowa (Norwich) - 6.94 (17 games) Frank Stapleton (Man Utd) - 6.93 (28 games) Steve Perryman (Tottenham) - 6.93 (28 games) Mo Johnston (Watford) - 6.93 (15 games) Paul Mariner (Ipswich Town/Arsenal) - 6.92 (24 games) Steve Lynex (Leicester) - 6.92 (26 games) Paul Elliott (Luton) - 6.92 (26 games) Ian Atkins (Sunderland) - 6.88 (26 games) Gary Lineker (Leicester) - 6.87 (23 games) Steve McMahon (Aston Villa) - 6.86 (22 games) Steve Walford (West Ham) - 6.86 (28 games) Dave Bennett (Coventry) - 6.85 (20 games) Trevor Aylott (Luton) - 6.85 (13 games) Dave Watson (Norwich) - 6.85 (27 games) Danny Wallace (Southampton) - 6.85 (27 games) Robbie James (Stoke) - 6.85 (27 games) John Barnes (Watford) - 6.85 (27 games) Howard Gayle (Birmingham) - 6.84 (19 games) Mike Channon (Norwich) - 6.84 (25 games) Ian Stewart (QPR) - 6.84 (25 games) Colin Gibson (Aston Villa) - 6.83 (18 games) Mark Walters (Aston Villa) - 6.83 (23 games) Eric Gates (Ipswich) - 6.83 (24 games) Garry Birtles (Forest) - 6.83 (24 games) Garry Thompson (West Brom) - 6.83 (24 games) David O'Leary (Arsenal) - 6.82 (22 games) Stewart Robson (Arsenal) - 6.82 (17 games) Kenny Sansom (Arsenal) - 6.82 (28 games) Hans van Breukelen (Forest) - 6.82 (22 games) Dennis Mortimer (Aston Villa) - 6.81 (26 games) Mark Falco (Tottenham) - 6.81 (27 games) Peter Davenport (Forest) - 6.80 (20 games) Gerry Daly (Coventry) - 6.79 (14 games) Peter Fox (Stoke) - 6.79 (28 games) Danny Thomas (Tottenham) - 6.79 (14 games) Peter Withe (Aston Villa) - 6.78 (23 games) Steve Hodge (Forest) - 6.78 (27 games) Tommy Caton (Arsenal) - 6.77 (13 games) Kevin Sheedy (Everton) - 6.77 (26 games) Colin Todd (Forest) - 6.77 (13 games) Paul Rideout (Aston Villa) - 6.75 (16 games) John Devine (Norwich) - 6.75 (20 games) Ian Bowyer (Forest) - 6.75 (28 games) Martin O'Neill (Notts County) - 6.75 (24 games) Phil Parkes (West Ham) - 6.75 (28 games) Billy Wright (Birmingham) - 6.74 (27 games) Peter Shilton (Southampton) - 6.74 (27 games) Chris Turner (Sunderland) - 6.74 (27 games) Alvin Martin (West Ham) - 6.74 (23 games) Terry Gibson (Coventry) - 6.73 (22 games) Stuart Pearce (Coventry) - 6.73 (15 games) Geoff Pike (West Ham) - 6.72 (18 games) Keith Bertschin (Norwich) - 6.71 (28 games) Gordon Chisholm (Sunderland) - 6.71 (24 games) Nigel Callaghan (Watford) - 6.71 (28 games)
Doing the same as before and adding other players, in addition to those listed above, of those clubs, with averages of 6.50 or more (and 13 games or more) for those clubs after this 2nd third of the season: Nottm Forest Ian Wallace - 6.61 (18 games) Colin Walsh - 6.58 (24 games) Frans Thijssen - 6.50 (14 games) Man Utd Mike Duxbury - 6.68 (25 games) Arthur Graham - 6.62 (26 games) Arnold Muhren - 6.59 (22 games) Arthur Albiston - 6.54 (26 games) Remi Moses - 6.52 (21 games) QPR Terry Fenwick - 6.69 (26 games) Peter Hucker - 6.67 (27 games) Gary Micklewhite - 6.60 (15 games) Tottenham Graham Roberts - 6.68 (25 games) Chris Hughton - 6.62 (21 games) Gary Stevens - 6.59 (27 games) Gary Mabbutt - 6.57 (14 games) Ray Clemence - 6.50 (22 games)
Maybe an unnecessary correction (to post about I mean) but that should say 7.16 (19 games) for Wigley at that point. Forest are the one team that I've got to the end of the season for at the moment, and so I can say re: Fairclough that actually his overall average stays above 7 and he ends with over 30 games too so he could be a candidate for Match's XI at the end I'm guessing, although he was correctly not listed in their half-term report because he didn't meet their appearances criteria at that point (end of January - he was one game short on 14 as per that cut-off point). It shows the benefit of compiling the ratings in full for all players for the whole season anyway, as when I had done the exercise before adding in some other players that stood out with high ratings to the ones listed in the half-term report I had not included Fairclough even though he was a Forest player. I would say for this season btw @Paul W that although I haven't felt the need to do a full check on it, it looks like the figures shown in the half-term report are mostly immaculately accurate (to 2 decimal places but always rounded down). I had already spotted that John Chiedozie should have been included in it when I did that exercise originally (so I already had him ending in 'Match's XI' from the numbers I had calculated at that point also), and the other thing seems to be that they mis-calculated Alvin Martin's 'half-term' average, showing it somewhat too high (maybe forgetting to update it, or doing a mis-calculation?), but otherwise it might only be minor things (I had Dave Bennett of Coventry on one less point than they were showing in effect, to move his average to 7.00 from 7.05, I noticed, and it seems that Tony Coton the Birmingham goalkeeper could have been included, just having a high enough average to make it among the lower rated goalies on that list they made. It's the fact that their calculations are generally very accurate this season at that point that allowed me (already when I did the previous exercise) to understand that the Half-Term report was calculated 'as at the end of January' anyway, in between the true mid-way point of the season and the point it was published (during February after some more ratings had been published).