Premier League 2019-20 Assignments and Discussion [Rs]

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  1. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    you either have simulation or a foul. It wasn’t simulation.
     
  2. chwmy

    chwmy Member+

    Feb 27, 2010
    I don’t see how you can call that a flop. He didn’t drag his leg- his leg that got kicked didn’t move forward and if you've ever tried it, it’s super hard to make your leg not move forward when running unless there’s some significant physical resistance, like a leg or the ground.

    but if you think the contact was insignificant and as such not a foul, sure people are gonna have a range of opinions about that.
     
  3. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Man City - Arsenal
    Referee: Jonathan Moss. Assistants: Marc Perry, Eddie Smart. Fourth official: Lee Mason. VAR: Michael Oliver. Assistant VAR: Neil Davies.
     
  4. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    "Top six" matches:

    Liverpool - Man City (Community Shield): Atkinson
    Man Utd - Chelsea: Taylor
    Man City - Tottenham: Oliver
    Liverpool - Arsenal: Taylor
    Arsenal - Tottenham: Atkinson
    Chelsea - Liverpool: Oliver
    Man Utd - Arsenal: Friend
    Man Utd - Liverpool: Atkinson
    Liverpool - Tottenham: Taylor
    Chelsea - Man Utd (Carabao Cup): Tierney
    Liverpool - Arsenal (Carabao Cup): Marriner
    Liverpool - Man City: Oliver
    Man City - Chelsea: Atkinson
    Man Utd - Tottenham: Tierney
    Man City - Man Utd: Taylor
    Arsenal - Man City: Tierney
    Tottenham - Chelsea: Taylor
    Arsenal - Chelsea: Pawson
    Arsenal - Man Utd: Kavanagh
    Man Utd - Man City (Carabao Cup): Dean
    Liverpool - Man Utd: Pawson
    Chelsea - Arsenal: Attwell
    Man City - Man Utd (Carabao Cup): Marriner
    Chelsea - Man Utd: Taylor
    Chelsea - Tottenham: Oliver
    Chelsea - Liverpool (FA Cup): Kavanagh
    Man Utd - Man City: Dean
    Man City - Arsenal: Moss

    Distribution of these matches in the EPL so far:

    Taylor: 6
    Oliver: 4
    Atkinson: 3
    Pawson: 2
    Tierney: 2
    Attwell: 1
    Dean: 1
    Friend: 1
    Kavanagh: 1
    Moss: 1
     
  5. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    It's late in the season, but Moss finally gets one. Marriner still hasn't got any.
     
  6. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    I wasn’t really concerned with the demotion.
    Rather, my point is that:
    - an admission that the refs screwed up
    - an apology or at least regret it happened statement
    - we are taking action
    goes a long way in establishing faith in a league and its officials

    Soccer leagues would benefit greatly from this.
    Instead, we usually get a convoluted totally fabricated reason the ref is correct.
     
  7. Alex-Ref

    Alex-Ref Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 13, 2019
    My bad, it was Paul Tierney, but it was in the Norwich vs. Bournemouth game.
     
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  8. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    I’m not either. I am questioning whether it was the right move. It has the appearance of action..
     
  9. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    This match has been postponed.
     
  10. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Matchweek 30

    Watford - Leicester
    Referee: Stuart Attwell. Assistants: Harry Lennard, Darren Cann. Fourth official: Graham Scott. VAR: Andre Marriner. Assistant VAR: Andy Halliday.

    Bournemouth - Crystal Palace
    Referee: Mike Dean. Assistants: Dan Robathan, Simon Long. Fourth official: Simon Hooper. VAR: Andy Madley. Assistant VAR: Simon Beck.

    Brighton - Arsenal
    Referee: Paul Tierney. Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, Marc Perry. Fourth official: Gavin Ward. VAR: Michael Oliver. Assistant VAR: Derek Eaton.

    Man City - Burnley
    Referee: Craig Pawson. Assistants: Scott Ledger, Richard West. Fourth official: Geoff Eltringham. VAR: Kevin Friend. Assistant VAR: Adrian Holmes.

    Newcastle - Sheffield
    Referee: David Coote. Assistants: Peter Kirkup, Nick Hopton. Fourth official: Robert Jones. VAR: Martin Atkinson. Assistant VAR: Sian Massey-Ellis.

    Norwich - Southampton
    Referee: Lee Mason. Assistants: Mark Scholes, Eddie Smart. Fourth official: John Brooks. VAR: Jonathan Moss. Assistant VAR: Ian Hussin.

    Aston Villa - Chelsea
    Referee: Anthony Taylor. Assistants: Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn. Fourth official: David Webb. VAR: Chris Kavanagh. Assistant VAR: Andy Halliday.

    West Ham - Wolves
    Referee: Chris Kavanagh. Assistants: Daniel Cook, Neil Davies. Fourth official: Graham Scott. VAR: Simon Hooper. Assistant VAR: Andy Garratt.

    Tottenham - Man Utd
    Referee: Michael Oliver. Assistants: Stuart Burt, Simon Bennett. Fourth official: Craig Pawson. VAR: Paul Tierney. Assistant VAR: Adam Nunn.

    Everton - Liverpool
    Referee: Martin Atkinson. Assistants: Lee Betts, Sian Massey-Ellis. Fourth official: Anthony Taylor. VAR: Stuart Attwell. Assistant VAR: Constantine Hatzidakis.

    Atkinson leads the Merseyside derby, Oliver in charge as Man Utd visits their wounded former coach. Dean continues to be busy.
     
  11. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    "Top six" matches:

    Liverpool - Man City (Community Shield): Atkinson
    Man Utd - Chelsea: Taylor
    Man City - Tottenham: Oliver
    Liverpool - Arsenal: Taylor
    Arsenal - Tottenham: Atkinson
    Chelsea - Liverpool: Oliver
    Man Utd - Arsenal: Friend
    Man Utd - Liverpool: Atkinson
    Liverpool - Tottenham: Taylor
    Chelsea - Man Utd (Carabao Cup): Tierney
    Liverpool - Arsenal (Carabao Cup): Marriner
    Liverpool - Man City: Oliver
    Man City - Chelsea: Atkinson
    Man Utd - Tottenham: Tierney
    Man City - Man Utd: Taylor
    Arsenal - Man City: Tierney
    Tottenham - Chelsea: Taylor
    Arsenal - Chelsea: Pawson
    Arsenal - Man Utd: Kavanagh
    Man Utd - Man City (Carabao Cup): Dean
    Liverpool - Man Utd: Pawson
    Chelsea - Arsenal: Attwell
    Man City - Man Utd (Carabao Cup): Marriner
    Chelsea - Man Utd: Taylor
    Chelsea - Tottenham: Oliver
    Chelsea - Liverpool (FA Cup): Kavanagh
    Man Utd - Man City: Dean
    Man City - Arsenal: Moss
    Tottenham - Man Utd: Oliver

    Distribution of these matches in the EPL so far:

    Taylor: 6
    Oliver: 5
    Atkinson: 3
    Pawson: 2
    Tierney: 2
    Attwell: 1
    Dean: 1
    Friend: 1
    Kavanagh: 1
    Moss: 1
     
  12. SCV-Ref

    SCV-Ref Member

    Spurs
    Australia
    Feb 22, 2018
    Now that Mikel Arteta has tested positive for "the virus"...and Arsenal is being disinfected from top to bottom...I think it's bye bye Premiere League for a bit. They are having emergency meeting tomorrow.
     
  13. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I won't bring in politics relating to the US government response, but the US pro sports leagues have been a shining example of proper response. Within an hour of a players positive test the NBA shut down and everyone else followed within 12 hours. What is the Premier League and UEFA waiting on?
     
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  14. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    If the EPL shuts down, it just shows they're biased against Liverpool winning a title.

    But seriously, this isn't a laughing matter.
     
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  15. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    All games have been postponed for now.
     
  16. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Anyone have the LigaMX assignments?
     
  17. El Rayo Californiano

    Feb 3, 2014
    Here you go.
     
  18. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Mike Dean admitted he used to have stage fright earlier in his career when he refereed big matches.

    “Ten to 15 years ago I used to drive to a ground and be scared stiff because I’m refereeing in front of 60 to 70,000 people.

    “You have to remind yourself that you don’t make mistakes on purpose and that you shouldn’t let yourself worry, because if you worry too much about a mistake you’re going to make loads of them.

    “I do make mistakes but I don’t let it worry me because it’s not life or death.”

    He quipped too when asked whether he’d considered becoming a professional golf caddie upon refereeing retirement: “I’d have to get divorced first because my missus hates me doing it as it’s on a women’s tour. I don’t know why!

    “As it stands I’m just so chuffed to be doing what I’ve been doing (as a football official) for the last 30 years.”

    https://www.wiltsglosstandard.co.uk...ge-fright---local-officials-face-progression/
     
  19. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    I was working out in the basement today, riding the bike, and I was watching the first Merseyside Derby of the 06/07 Season, which may be the last Everton has won.

    Anyway, Graham Poll is the referee, and if VAR existed back then Liverpool would have had two VAR penalties in the first 20 minutes! First, Robbie Fowler was waved up by Poll even though he had been tripped, and then Yobo holds Sami Hyypia on a corner and tops that off by shoving him just as the ball reaches him. Other than that, it was a fun watch.
     
  20. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Premier League referees keeping fit at home
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    Premier League referees have been set a weekly training schedule which they must complete at home with their performances being monitored from afar by the PGMOL.

    Sports scientists are tracking their data after telling officials, such as Mike Dean, Michael Oliver and Martin Atkinson, to wear heart-rate monitors during exercise.

    Each is expected to have to pass a fitness test before being assigned a game once the suspension on the Premier League season is lifted.

    Once a date is set for the 2019-20 campaign's restart, and when the UK Government allows, officials will meet for a crash course reminder in VAR.

    In the meantime, the PGMOL have been staying in touch with their members using weekly video conference calls via Zoom, the app being used by many companies during lockdown.

    Managing director Mike Riley was self-isolating this month after a business trip to Kuala Lumpur.

    After dominating headlines all season, VAR has fallen under the radar amid the coronavirus crisis.

    Talks have been ongoing regarding changes to the technology ahead of 2020-21, including whether more leniency should be given to attackers in offside situations.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...referees-having-fit-checks-home-pandemic.html
     
  21. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    The seasons of all leagues below Tier VI in England have been declared null and void. No announcement what will happen vis-à-vis referee promotions / demotions.
     
  22. Thezzaruz

    Thezzaruz Member+

    Jun 20, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    And a few teams that thus lose out on what looked to be a sure promotion has said that they'll challenge it in court.

    I'm surprised that there is nothing in the FA regulations (all FA's tbh) about how to treat situations like this.
     
  23. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Are you ********ing kidding me!?

    There is no regulations in any walk of life to deal with something like this! You want companies and organizations to waste time and money drafting protocol for doomsday scenarios in their by-laws?

    Why don't they put a clause in there about who gets awarded the title if an asteroid hits the planet or if a nuclear Holocaust occurs?
     
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  24. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    good rant!

    force majeure covers a lot of these types of things, but different locales (including England) quantify them differently. In my isolation, I have decided to become a lawyer!!
     
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  25. GearRef

    GearRef Member

    Manchester City
    United States
    Jan 2, 2018
    La Grange Park, Illinois
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While I somewhat agree with you, I do feel that leagues should have something in their by-laws about a suspended or canceled season. Whether that be for a natural disaster, a war, or something else like a national tragedy. Seems logical that the writers would think that there’s a possibility of something happening that would stop a season. It doesn’t have to be catered to specific examples, but general guidelines would have been smart to add.
     
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