Premature Speculation: Just how good is Lionel Messi?

Yeah what a legend. He single-handedly defeated Inter. Oh wait, you mean he was almost invisible in the game? lol.

 

Not too different from the first Arsenal match, eh?

 

And the Stuttgart match. People have short memories. Even then Messi created 2 great goal scoring opportunities.

Pretty pathetic trolling on the Mexican's part.

 

While Rooney and CRonaldo are tearing it up in the CL semifinals... oh wait.

 

Erm youve just listed 3 games all aways where Messi has went missing, hardly the sign of a player earmarked better than Maradonna.

Is Messi just a glorified homer? Bye Bye to Argentinas world cup if he is.

 

was there nothing different like rules, laws and money in football to make that an 100% fair comparison? Messi is nowhere near Diego at the moment and has a lot of work before he is.

 

He plays over 60 matches per season, you're talking about 3?

Anyway, he didn't go missing he just didn't stand-out in those 3. It would be pretty difficult to stand-out in the Arsenal match. You'd need about 10 shots on goal, because 4 or 5 was just about the average the way Barca dominated.

 

I don't know, this is Diego vs Man Utd, not sure how old he was, but he was at Barca, so he was Messi's age or older. I'm not saying Messi's better, but "nowhere near" is wrong.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rinB8Z6kj2Q"]YouTube- Young Maradona VS Manchester United vol, 1[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGF_m5rkD8&feature=related"]YouTube- Young Maradona VS Manchester United vol, 2[/ame]

 

I've listed 3 games where Messi has underperformed by his standards playing away. When he played at home he killed in both the Stuttgart and Arsenal matches. Jumping the gun because of a performance when Barca's entire squad underperformed yet created at least 6 good scoring opportunities, 2 of those because of Messi, in the second half is ridiculous.

And I've hardly seen people claim he's better than Maradona.

 

Messi plays in the easiest top league of the big 3. After Barca and Real the league becomes a joke, 27 points gap, its a bigger version of the SPL.

He rarely performs against the big teams and when he does its normally at the Nou Camp, great players turn it on home and away, Messi hasnt master this yet.

He has a great record in the Classicos but whens the last time Real Madrid were dangerous while Messi has played at Barca, anyone knows they are terrible defensively.

I just think tonight showed Messi is far from the complete player and some of his rave reviews over the year have been a little premature.

 

Messi plays with a Barca team with maximum spending power, unlimited amount of foreign playrs in the 11 etc. Maradonna played in far weaker sides than Messi both club and international level. At the minute Messi is nowhere near Maradonna but Im not saying its like he wont ever get near him.

 

Watch the video.

 

This isn't even worth discussing. Messi is Barca's top scorer of all time in the CL, he's scored 7 goals in 8 matches in clasicos. He's scored against Manchester United, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, etc.... What more do you want? It's pathetic that you are trying to discredit him. You also realize that this isn't the only season he's played football right?

Messi scored a hattrick against Madrid when Madrid won the league. What are you talking about?

It really is hilarious. One match proves everything doesn't it? Give me a break .

Xavi didn't do anything tonight either. He had a very sub-par match. Does it mean he's far from a complete player and his praise is pre-mature?

 

There isn't a "big 3" anymore. Perhaps you missed the newsflash about Germany almost passing Italy in the UEFA coefficient, while Spain and England are miles out in front(?)

 

That statement sums it up well. It's also supported by the fact that the haters waited until after the match to trash Messi (because they were shitting their pants during the game, and knew Messi could score right after they trashed him if they posted too soon).

 

I'm sure Pele, Maradona and Cruyyff never played bad games in their careers.

 

The thing is we get to see Messi every game. Back then you got to see one of them every blue moon, and the highlights only showed the great performances. So its easier to find a players fault in today's game where the whole world can watch.

Obviously they had bad games. But your barely got around to hear or even see about those.


I am not saying by any stretch Messi is in the level of Pele or Diego, but he definetly has the talent to get there, time will tell.

 

I think Pele did not play against Independiente - if you are refering to the 1964 semifinal.

PS : This is quite ridiculous. Are we seriously expecting Messi not to have any stinker in his entire career ? And when he does are the trolls going to pop up every time just like today ?

 

I already said that I'm not trashing those legends (and I never have so I don't know why you keep creating that straw man), but to be comparing Messi to them now for sure is premature.

 

Don't pay attention to this guy he is just a muppet.

 

Once again the voice of reason, stop that, would you? LOL