Prediction Contest: 2021 NCAA Tournament

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by cpthomas, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. NilamCA

    NilamCA Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Made it through another season!

    Round 1
    FSU
    SMU
    South Florida
    Pepperdine
    Tennessee
    Wash State
    Harvard
    Michigan
    Arkansas
    Virginia Tech
    Purdue
    Notre Dame
    TCU
    Princeton
    Ole Miss
    Rutgers
    Duke
    Memphis
    St. John’s
    Auburn
    Georgetown
    Santa Clara
    Butler
    UCLA
    North Carolina
    Hofstra
    Penn State
    USC
    BYU
    Clemson
    Milwaukee
    Virginia

    Round 2
    FSU
    Pepperdine
    Tennessee
    Michigan
    Arkansas
    Notre Dame
    TCU
    Rutgers
    Duke
    Brown
    Georgetown
    UCLA
    UNC
    USC
    BYU
    UVA

    Round 3
    FSU
    Michigan
    Arkansas
    TCU
    Duke
    UCLA
    UNC
    UVA

    Semi-Final
    FSU
    TCU
    Duke
    UVA

    Final
    FSU
    UVA

    Champion
    FSU
     
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  2. 2233soccer

    2233soccer Member

    United States
    Sep 13, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the UCLA game just threw a monkey wrench in everyone’s predictions
     
  3. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    If literally everyone got it wrong tho, it's still an even playing field.
     
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  4. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure not one person on Earth bet the UC Irvine anteaters of all teams upsetting the undefeated PAC-12 champions. Seriously WTF? That had to be the worst women’s soccer match I saw in my life. Amanda Cromwell is probably embarrassed.
     
  5. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of our competitors have UCLA going out in the first round, so there will be carnage. We have them going out as follows, if my counting is right:

    2 in the second round
    2 in the third round
    9 in the quarters
    5 in the semis
    1 in the championship game
    2 have them as champs
    Here are the scores and standings after today’s 15 games:

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  6. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With six games left to play tomorrow to finish round one, here are the current scores:

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  7. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the final Round 1 results. For comparison, in 2019 after Round 1 the human scores ranged from 29 to 20 and the rating systems were at 28.

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  8. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NOTE: I have added the NCAA Women’s Soccer Committee to the prediction competition. I filled out their bracket based on the seeding (including the seeding positions for the #1 seeds). For unseeded first round matchups, I assigned the home team as the first round winner, since the Committee awards home field to what it believes to be the stronger team.

    For the first round, the Committee got 24 right, so they are in the group tied for first.
     
  9. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    If we throw out the UCLA and UNC results, what was the game most people got wrong? A lot of people had South Florida over NC State and Brown over St John's.
     
  10. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Counting the humans, the Committee, and the rating systems, all missed UCLA and North Carolina. Here are how many missed the others:

    Alabama over Clemson 19
    Milwaukee over Xavier 18
    St Johns over Brown 18
    Samford over Auburn 18
    St Louis over Mississippi 17
    SMU over Texas 16
    Santa Clara over Stanford 14
    NC State over South Florida 10
    Wake Forest over Harvard 7
    Memphis over LSU 7
    Wisconsin over Butler 5
    Virginia Tech over Ohio State 4
    Tennessee over LIpscomb 3
    Purdue over LoyolaChicago 2
    BYU over New Mexico 1

    Those are from a hand count, so I hope they are right.
     
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  11. West Ender

    West Ender Member

    Dec 28, 2020
    Southwest
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC, the 3rd and 4th rounds are the money rounds, right?
     
  12. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    What jumps out there is that seven people thought Harvard was going to go to Wake Forest and win.:laugh:
     
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  13. Rank Cleats

    Rank Cleats New Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Jan 5, 2020
    What jumps out there is that you didn't submit your picks:laugh:
     
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  14. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Oh it's much more rewarding to criticize. :p
     
  15. West Ender

    West Ender Member

    Dec 28, 2020
    Southwest
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the scoring system for this contest needs a little tweaking.
    One point for the first round seems too little, or maybe it's just that 8 points for each of the last 3 rounds seems too much.
    I might try running the past 10 contests through simulations based on different scoring methods later to see the difference.
    It just seems unfair for someone who correctly calls winners in the first 2 rounds to gain so little.
    I really have no idea how it would affect the contest winners, I'm just curious.
    Although, maybe you, CP, or SoccerHunter have already done this?
     
  16. Carolina92

    Carolina92 Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    There was a Harvard fan (parent) in another thread that was incensed that Harvard didn’t get a seed and had to travel.
     
  17. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    I can understand that, based on their RPI. But they traveled to mild weather and a good grass field and had every chance to back up their RPI to those of us who suspected it was smoke and mirrors, and all they did was confirm that.
     
  18. RtD!

    RtD! Member

    Nov 12, 2014
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Holy crap! My entire right-hand side of the bracket is wiped out. heading for last place finish this year.
     
  19. SpeakeroftheHouse

    PSG
    Italy
    Nov 2, 2021
    It is relatively easy to game the RPI if you are in a decent conference. Here are the ingredients:

    Play the best teams in a weaker conference to up your record, and their records will help you, followed by the weaker teams in a strong conference. Add in a decent conference schedule. Harder for mid majors in weak conferences to do it if they can’t beat the best teams in the other mid majors.

    Have a look at Harvard’s schedule.

    Fairfield
    Monmouth
    Northeastern

    All good teams from weak conferences. Sprinkle in BC, Kansas and St. John’s. Weaker teams in good conferences.

    Heat the oven to 350 and cook for 11 weeks. Whala! #12 RPI.
     
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  20. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Fair enough. In the end though it doesn't protect you come tournament time if you're not actually that great.
     
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  21. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But remember, everyone missed on North Carolina and UCLA.
     
  22. sweepsit

    sweepsit Member

    Oct 25, 2016
    SF, California
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First round was just practice round, right? Right??
     
  23. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As some of you know, I do pre-season simulated ratings for all teams based on where they appear to be trending over time. Out of curiosity, I have added the pre-season ratings I did for this season as a contestant, under the name Pre-Season Ratings, so they will show up in the standings under that name.
     
  24. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the contest scores and standings after Tournament Round 2:

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  25. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    It should be noted that the committee is the only participant who gets to give home field advantage to the teams it picks.
     

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