PBP: Pre-season 2012/2013 Friendly | Hamburger SV v FC Barcelona | 24 July 2012 [R]

Viscaelbarca · Jul 23, 2012

Tuesday the 24th of July 2012

| Barcelona (CEST), 18:00 | LOS ANGELES (PDT), 9:00 | MONTREAL (EDT), 12:00 | LONDON (UTC+1), 17:00 | MELBOURNE (UTC+10), 02:00 (NEXT DAY)
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Imtech Arena - Hamburg

Volksparkstadion is a football stadium near Altona, Hamburg, Germany. It is the home ground of German Bundesliga club Hamburger SV and was one of the 12 stadia used in the 2006 Football World Cup, hosting four group games and a quarter-final. Through a sponsorship deal the stadium is officially named Imtech Arena, and has previously been called the Volksparkstadion,AOL Arena and HSH Nordbank Arena for similar reasons. Due to UEFA regulations on stadium sponsorship, the stadium is referred to as the Hamburg Arena for European matches.

Google Street | Stadium Info

Hamburger Sport-Verein [ham.ˈbʊɐ̯.gɐ ˌʃpɔɐ̯tʰ.fə.ˈʁaɪ̯n], usually referred to as HSV in Germany and Hamburg in international parlance, is a German multi-sport club based inHamburg, its largest branch being its football department. The football team is one of the country's oldest, most well known, and best performing clubs, with the unique distinction of having played continuously in top tier of the German football league system since the end of World War I; the team has never been relegated from any top-flight league and is the only team that has always played in the Bundesligasince its foundation in 1963.
In the mid-1970s, HSV began a brilliant run that saw them capture numerous honours. In 1976 they won the DFB-Pokaland followed up the next year with a Cup Winners' Cup. They took their first Bundesliga championship in 1979, fell just two points short behind Bayern Munich in 1980, and then won consecutive championships in 1982 and 1983, led by national star Felix Magath. In 1983 they won the European Cup with a 1–0 win over Juventus, followed by another German Cup in 1987.

1960 Friendly Hamburger S.V. 2-3 FC Barcelona
1961 European FC Barcelona 1-0 Hamburger S.V.
1961 European Hamburger S.V. 2-1 FC Barcelona
1961 European FC Barcelona 1-0 Hamburger S.V.
1962 Friendly FC Barcelona 5-1 Hamburger S.V.
1963 Cup Win.Cup FC Barcelona 4-4 Hamburger S.V.
1963 Cup Win.Cup Hamburger S.V. 0-0 FC Barcelona
1963 Cup Win.Cup Hamburger S.V. 3-2 FC Barcelona
1968 Friendly FC Barcelona 2- 3 Hamburger S.V.
1969 Tr.C.Palma FC Barcelona 2-2 Hamburger S.V.
1974 Friendly Hamburger S.V. 3-2 FC Barcelona

Squad List
From the first team
Messi, Mascherano, Alves, Alexis, Adriano, Afellay, Pinto, Bartra, Muniesa and Dos Santos
From the B Team

(Oier, Sergio Gómez, Sergi Roberto, Lobato, Ilie, Rafinha, Kiko y Planas) más Deulofeu, Patric, Balliu, Espinosa and Joan Àngel Roman

Missing Players
The European Champions, Puyol, Villa y Fontàs, Thiago and Cuenca

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Visca el Barça

evil_allan · Jul 23, 2012

so who do we have to lineup with?

afellay---------messi-----------alexis
----------JDS----------s.roberto-----
adriano-------masch------------dani
---------muniesa----bartra-----------
-----------------pinto------------------

Gilmango · Jul 23, 2012

Sanchez - Messi - Affelay
S. Roberto - JDS - Rafinha
Adriano-Masch-Bartra-Alves
------------Pinto

El Mundo Deportivo suggests something similar but with Affelay playing midfield: P
ossible 1st line-up Vilanova's Barça: Pinto - Alves Mascherano Bartra Adriano - Afellay Jonathan S.Roberto - Kiko/Rafinha Messi Alexis

I think that seeing how JDS can play at DM is one of the big questions of this preseason, and one reason that JDS decided not to play for Mexico at the Olympics. Many of us see this as a make or break season for him at Barca. Perhaps that is too harsh but with Thiago's ascendance last year, Cesc's signing with Barca, Iniesta and Xavi still here, talented youngsters coming up behind him, he will need to show that he can back up Busquets sooner than later as attacking midfield is oh so crowded.

Don Nurilio · Jul 23, 2012

Finally!

MavadoDribblez · Jul 23, 2012

It barely even feels like there was a break. Whoa. Out of curiosity why is Messi in the lineup? Can't we give the lad a longer break? I assume he has been itching to play though.

Gilmango · Jul 23, 2012

MavadoDribblez said: ↑

It barely even feels like there was a break. Whoa. Out of curiosity why is Messi in the lineup? Can't we give the lad a longer break? I assume he has been itching to play though.
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Yeah, the off season is incredibly short. I'm sure Messi is itching to play. Hopefully Messi and other starters only play a half. I also suspect that the club gets a higher appearance fee when Messi plays. While I am glad we are mostly staying in Europe this offseason, we are covering thousands of miles to play so many friendlies, it all seems a bit much. 14350 kilometers of traveling!

evil_allan · Jul 24, 2012

---adriano--------messi----------alexis---
-----------afellay--------s.roberto----------
muniesa----------JDS------------------dani
------------masch-------bartra---------------
--------------------pinto-----------------------

tadm123 · Jul 24, 2012

anyone know which network will air the game in the U.S? I was pretty sure ESPN but I don't see it in their schedule

tadm123 · Jul 24, 2012

MavadoDribblez said: ↑

It barely even feels like there was a break. Whoa. Out of curiosity why is Messi in the lineup? Can't we give the lad a longer break? I assume he has been itching to play though.
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Prolly Messi himself wants to play, there's also a clause that if Messi doesn't play Barca would had to compensate Hamburg with around 1.5M.

Rana catesbeiana · Jul 24, 2012

Barcastuff saying Messi out of Hamburg match (due to getting injured in practice, something with calf). Dunno how serious, probably not very. Medical tests today, but apparently it's just a bruise or something.

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

barcastuff: Barcelona sources have confirmed the club will get 30% less money for Hamburg friendly because Messi won't play: 0.84M instead of 1.2M [md]

Ouch. Still not worth it, though.

Excited for the TITOTEAM debut in just 2 hours!

Rana catesbeiana · Jul 24, 2012

Man you gotta be a big star when your footie team plays a friendly and your absence makes it that the opponent doesn't have to pay your the team almost 400k, which they would've paid just to see jog around friendly footballing.

As compared with me, amateur footballing, paying my club to play. Lol.

Gilmango · Jul 24, 2012

inswinger said: ↑

barcastuff: Barcelona sources have confirmed the club will get 30% less money for Hamburg friendly because Messi won't play: 0.84M instead of 1.2M [md]

Ouch. Still not worth it, though.

Excited for the TITOTEAM debut in just 2 hours!
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Just saw that and it is like I predicted yesterday, we get less $ if Messi doesn't play; quite possibly we'd have gotten even more had we had the Spanish NT players back (had they not gone to final) and playing. The nice thing is we get to see Sanchez or Rafinha in the false 9 role. So long as Messi's injury is not bad the ones to feel sorry for are the ticket buyers in Hamburg.

Rana catesbeiana · Jul 24, 2012

...and if you're a huge Messi fan in Hamburg, it's not like it's impossible to travel and watch him play. Messi plays about two hour flight away about weekly, and even closer annually in CL.

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

Rana catesbeiana said: ↑

...and if you're a huge Messi fan in Hamburg, it's not like it's impossible to travel and watch him play. Messi plays about two hour flight away about weekly, and even closer annually in CL.
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But some of those fans paid for tickets to today's match, expecting to see Messi. Now they're not. It's a disappointment to them.

Sorry, can't resist this, seeing our opponent for today:

I don't think eating up Hamburger SV today will make us Wimpy, though.

Btw, Barça may be in pre-season, but VEB is in mid-season form already with the match threads. Great opener.

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

Barcelona line-up (official): Pinto - Alves Mascherano Bartra Adriano - Jonathan Espinosa S.Roberto - Afellay Alexis Deulofeu

Rana catesbeiana · Jul 24, 2012

Obv gonna be disappointed, but they did not pay money to Hamburg vs. Messi. They decided to spend money on a ticket to a match between Hamburg vs Barca, and no one promised Messi to feature as you can't guarantee those kinda things. It's a "risky deal" everytime you pay football tickets in a way that you know exactly the cost, but not exactly what you get in return. Sometimes you spend big on travel and tickets and accommodation etc just to get your heart broken - like for example those Netherlands fans who travelled to Johannesburg just for the final.

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

Rana catesbeiana said: ↑

Obv gonna be disappointed, but they did not pay money to Hamburg vs. Messi. They decided to spend money on a ticket to a match between Hamburg vs Barca, and no one promised Messi to feature as you can't guarantee those kinda things. It's a "risky deal" everytime you pay football tickets in a way that you know exactly the cost, but not exactly what you get in return. Sometimes you spend big on travel and tickets and accommodation etc just to get your heart broken - like for example those Netherlands fans who travelled to Johannesburg just for the final.
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Well, obviously that "risk" that is always there was written into the contract for this friendly, and probably all pre-season games. I wonder how many players in the world get these special clauses written for them.

Game on!

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

Golllllll Dani Alves!

He destroyed that ball... golazo.

puyol · Jul 24, 2012

alves with a cracker , nice assist from alexis , crying celebration from alves lol

Don Nurilio · Jul 24, 2012

I really like our new kit especially the fade in.

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

Hope we can quickly move past the discontent Alves expressed over the club not denying transfer rumors this summer. A goal or two helps...

puyol · Jul 24, 2012

hehe nice pass behind the back from pinto , strange he got to wear the captain badge though

inswinger · Jul 24, 2012

Did Pinto just roll the ball out behind his back?!?!

Hey, he's a new dad, must be a little giddy today.

os_mutante · Jul 24, 2012

Bitte eine Link???

Awesome that Alves has already scored in pre-season. Always a good thing when he can get it going.