Pre-match vs. Real Salt Lick @ RFK 24 September 2011

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Black.White&Red, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. Black.White&Red

    Sep 9, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Who: D.C. United vs. RSL
    Where: Robert F Kennedy Memorial Stadium
    When: 7:30 EST, Saturday, 24 September 2011.

    And now for something completely different...

    [LINEUP-4-3-3]Quaranta, Davis, Wolff, Simms, DeRosario, Kitchen, Woolard, Jakovic, White, Korb, Hamid[/LINEUP-4-3-3]
     
  2. stangspritzring

    stangspritzring Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    NorMD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pre-Game DC United

    So, maybe in a 4-2-1-2-1, rather than a straight up 4-3-3? I think I'd rather start Quaranta/Brettschneider/Najar in that lineup...or is Najar out for Saturday?
     
  3. Diceson

    Diceson Member

    Dec 21, 1999
    Re: Pre-Game DC United

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    FEED DA' BEAST!

    I expect the team to probably be more active than in any previous game this season! But, that will only last about 60 minutes.

    The question will be, can DCUnited score a couple and have enough energy (and concentration!) to hold off RSL's consistent, controlled offensive pressure?

    Need some magic from one player, whoever it might be! Someone needs to win this game because I don't think the team can do it, if that makes sense.
     
  4. United fury

    United fury Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pre-Game DC United

    Due to the draw against Chivas, this is almost a must-win game. After this, DCU has three straight on the road against PU, Columbus, and Vancouver. With 4-5 points the goal during the road stretch, this game is crucial for keeping pace with the top of the conference. DCU still has two games in hand on most of the conference despite inconsistency and a win would be a great start for two potential 6 point swings next week(PU Thursday, Columbus Sunday). Destiny is still in DCU's hand........for now :eek:.
     
  5. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Pre-Game DC United

    Unless the defense collectively "grows a pair" and the offense learns to (at least) pass to their own teammates, I don't see United getting points from RSL, PU, or Columbus. United might actually earn a point or three from Vancouver, but I won't hold my breath on that one, either.
     
  6. Black.White&Red

    Sep 9, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Re: Pre-Game DC United

    I see a "sense of complacency" and a "sense of entitlement" by some players, hence I think Ben Olsen needs to shake things up a bit.

    Najar's "dribbling himself into dispossession" time after time, considering how many players were waiting in the box, is a big sin in my book.

    McDonald is overrated.

    i do think Brettschneider should be getting some playing time.

    But most importantly Najar, McDonald and King need to get acquainted with the bench.

    Simms and Kitchen should plug up the middle leaving the offensive players plenty of space to work their stuff. We need to see more hustle and hard work, and most importantly, hold people accountable. The 2 goal lead "evaporation" was a disgrace and unacceptable.
     
  7. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    I think it's a bit late in the season to tweak formations especially with so many young guys. The time to try new formations was back in June when we were also playing like crap. Or in a couple of weeks if we fall out of the playoff race.

    My ideal would be :


    -------------------------------Hamid
    Korb -------------Jakovic-------------McDonald-----------Burch
    ------------------------------Kitchen
    Najar----------------------------------------------------DaLuz
    ----------------------------Quaranta
    -------------------DeRo--------------Davies
     
  8. malva1985

    malva1985 New Member

    Aug 19, 2011
    Media, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    * My line up for saturday:
    ___________Hamid_________
    kitchen - White (jakovic)- Mcd- Burch
    Q. - simms- DeRo( attacking)- da luz
    Najar. - Wolff
    * najar up top like olsen did with pontius. Davies comes in with around 25-30 mins. Left and run himself to the ground by chasing balls and fighting till the end, he may not score and get to do his little dance, but now the dirty work is what matters. That tie to chivas just mabey what the "boys" need to wake the F*** Up!! We will see starting on saturday; Vamos United !!!!
     
  9. scruggs45

    scruggs45 Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    kp, va
    Are times so tough around here that we have to label most pre-game threads with lame nicknames?

    Real Salt Lick?

    Really?
     
  10. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uh, we've always done that, at least since I joined and even when times weren't so tough. We used to use "Fake Salt Lake," "Cowlumbus" or "Cumblowus", "Crapids," etc. in the thread names. Did you like those better?
     
  11. stangspritzring

    stangspritzring Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    NorMD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I think that particular line-up cedes the midfield again...I'd still rather have DeRo at A-Mid...
     
  12. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, DeRo up top is a recipe for losing - at least until we find someone else who can actual possess the ball in midfield for us. Either Najar or Quaranta should be able to do it, but neither has actually shown that tendency.
     
  13. oscarm

    oscarm Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    Fairfax, Va
  14. Eismahn

    Eismahn Member

    Sep 26, 2003
    Silver Spring,Maryla
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You get the feeling after seeing Ben's post-match video (see team's site) that he's feeling what many of us felt. I am anxious to see how much better the overall effort becomes with his observations, as well as hopefully seeing Jakovic return to help solidify the back 4. I fervently hope we don't ever see a repeat of the aimless turns of repelling the opponent's attack without first having identified a reasonable outlet or 2 to aim for.

    [LINEUP-4-3-3]Wolff, DeRosario, Davies, Quaranta, Simms, Najar, Burch, McDonald, Jakovic, Kitchen, Hamid[/LINEUP-4-3-3]

    Preferred subs- Brettschneider or Barklage for either Wolff or Davies, daLuz for either Q or Najar, King for Simms, Woolard for Burch, Korb for Kitchen, White for either McD or Jakovic.

    A note on subs- we're playing a home match. There's 3 scenarios to consider. You're behind, tied, or ahead. I don't want to see offense taken off for defense with a 1 goal lead AT HOME, nor do I ever want to see it tied or behind. In fact, given the way this team's topsy-turvy performances have gone, I'd only want to see it up 3 goals late in the second half.

    That being said, let's keep the subs inserted into their respective roles, no more square pegs fitted into round holes. DeRo is best for us as an Agressive Midfielder. Kitchen may become our dmid, but for now experience this season better suits him and us with him out wide in the back. And yes, by all means, if we're needing offense up top, give Brettschneider a sniff of the pitch, please.

    I'd also like to see us have some idea of how to regularly keep the back half connected to the front half in terms of possession. We looked out of ideas early vs. Chivas, and that game quickly got ugly. The last season we won the league Cup, it was routine to see Earnie Stewart get the ball just inside the opponents half before the offensive runs would click. Whoever it needs to be, we need someone to consistently be that guy-willing to show for the ball. If that guy gets shut down, then - and this is key, space needs to be found for the next guy. Not just add numbers to the last guys space, but rather- doing what it takes to make it easy to find the outlet is key.
    Funny, you can see that it almost always comes down to moving vs. ball watching to improve.


    I am confident Ben saw this and the boys will get it done in time for Saturday night.

    But a good part of that could come just from getting the overlapping flank play going. Let's see more cooperation up each side between those players top to bottom, and maybe a little less dependent on Simms and DeRo. Like the idea of harrassing their flanks and opening up the middle for a motivated DeRo?

    Vamos United.
    Vamanos!
     
  15. DangSkippy

    DangSkippy Member+

    Apr 28, 2009
    MoCo Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [LINEUP-4-5-1]Davies, Quaranta, Najar, Simms, DeRosario, Kitchen, Woolard, White, McDonald, Korb, Hamid [/LINEUP-4-5-1]

    I'm brilliant, don't deny it.
     
  16. stangspritzring

    stangspritzring Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    NorMD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's basically what I wanted us to shift to when we were up 2-0 against the the pre-gyros.
     
  17. scruggs45

    scruggs45 Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    kp, va
    Honestly they are all pathetic.

    That being said, this one seems to be the worst.
     
  18. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    This is the perfect formation IMO when we have the lead. Slide Kitchen into midfield to help Simms out. We need a little extra bite in midfield, otherwise Simms just gets outnumbered and overrun. De Ro isn't exactly ideal in dropping back to help Simms in those situations. And the King sub of doom doesn't do anything to bolster our midfield's defense either.

    My only concern with this lineup is Quaranta as a left mid/left wing. He gives us no width on that side. At that point I'd rather have Da Luz out there.
     
  19. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    It's less hilarious than "Real Salt Lake."
     
  20. asitis

    asitis Member+

    Mar 30, 2005
    Charlottesville
    Which leads me to the question I ask every year: Who's the King of Utah? :rolleyes:

    asitis
     
  21. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    jimmer jerdette or whatever that dude's name is
     
  22. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    MLS Preview:

    REFEREE: Edvin Jurisevic. SAR (bench): Chris Strickland; JAR (opposite): Adam Garner; 4th: Andrew Chapin
    MLS Career: 37 games; FC/gm: 21.9; Y/gm: 3.9; R: 4; pens: 5

    INJURY REPORT: D.C. UNITED — OUT: MF Branko Boskovic (L ACL tear); MF Chris Pontius (R tibia fracture); DF Jed Zayner (L knee sprain); QUESTIONABLE: GK Steve Cronin (R shoulder strain); DF Dejan Jakovic (R hamstring strain); MF Santino Quaranta (L quadriceps spasm); PROBABLE: GK Bill Hamid (R hamstring strain) ...

    REAL SALT LAKE — OUT: MF Nelson González (R foot fracture); MF Javier Morales (L ankle fracture dislocation); GK Kyle Reynish (R ankle sprain); DF Tony Beltran (L groin adductor tear); DOUBTFUL: FW Chris Agorsor (R hand fracture); QUESTIONABLE: DF Chris Wingert (L wrist fracture); PROBABLE: FW ¡lvaro Sabor"o (R knee effusion)

    INTERNATIONAL ABSENCES: none
    SUSPENDED: none
    WARNINGS:
    SUSPENDED NEXT YELLOW CARD: DC: Austin da Luz, Brandon McDonald
    SUSPENDED AFTER TWO YELLOW CARDS: DC: Charlie Davies, Dwayne De Rosario, Ethan White ... RSL: Jean Alexandre, Fabian Espindola, Robbie Russell, Chris Wingert

    Thx,

    Jay!
     
  23. redcomet

    redcomet Member

    Sep 10, 2010
    Club:
    DC United
    Morales said he'll be in the 18 for RSL.
     
  24. City Dave

    City Dave Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thomas Monson
     
  25. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kyle Beckerman:D
     

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