Pre-Iraq War briefing slides adorned with Bible quotes

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  1. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
  2. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    "Open the gates that the righteous nation may enter, the nation that keeps the faith" (IS 26:2)

    Wow.
     
  3. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
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    Wow. I'll bet we will be learning about this sort of stuff for years to come.
     
  4. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
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    "If you build it, he will come"

    Costner 19:87
     
  5. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Why are all you people say "wow"?

    What the hell is so shocking here? Was it not obvious to you from the start that George Bush equated the "war on terror" with that specifically Christian form of religious warfare called a "crusade"?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br_70Kbdpow"]YouTube - BushCult's "Crusade" statement[/ame]

    You have to be incredibly naive to think that the manipulative goons with which he surrounded himself wouldn't take advantage of that sort of thinking.
     
  6. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    I always assumed he was completely oblivious to how the word crusade would be perceived in the Muslim world, and that someone threw it into his speech without him really having any idea of the true meaning behind it.

    Not that I'm really surprised at these Bible quotes or anything - it just makes me shake my head to see Rummy using them to pull his strings and make him dance like a puppet.
     
  7. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    Too bad Bush never read Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice , particularly act 1 scene 3.

     
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  8. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    Exactly. Since this guy was one of the top officials responsible for these briefings, it should have been assumed.
     
  9. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

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  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    That's not even what it's about: it's the idea that this was all some sort of religiously sanctioned warfare, that God wasn't just on our side, but that we were effectively doing God's work. Never mind the crusade quote, look at this: "Freedom is not America's gift to the world. Freedom is God's gift to everybody in the world". I always thought it was a profound mistake on the part of the left to act and talk as if George Bush was anything less than sincere about stuff like that. They wanted to make it out into some sort of big Halliburton, oil-scheme. And, sure, for some it was. But for Bush I never thought it was that; it was rather for him always an expression of religious conviction, maybe not always doctrinal conviction (though that slipped through sometimes), but clearly religious conviction. That's why he was so dangerous.
     
  11. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    I don't doubt that for Bush it was all about doing God's will either... but I always perceived the guy to be too feeble-minded to really be in charge of this whole thing. If it hadn't been for the Neo-Cons pulling his strings - whether driven by a Halliburton oil scheme or by a misguided effort to spread Democracy to the Middle East - we wouldn't have invaded in the first place. In other words his motivation for the war wasn't the relevant part, because all he was doing was rubber-stamping Cheney's and Rumsfeld's decisions anyway, like any good figurehead. The whole religious rhetoric and imagery just made the job more difficult because it created so much ill will in the region - I think that was the biggest impact of Bush's view of the war.
     
  12. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    I gotta give credit to the Pentagon for this. They knew how to get the deciderer's attention. I know hindsight is 20/20, but I wish the CIA/NSA was as smart.

    If back in 2000/2001 somebody put a snappy biblical cover sheet on the "terrorists are looking to fly planes into american skyscrapers" presidential intelligence briefing, I bet the twin towers would still be standing.
     

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