Practice Observations: Short Bit

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  1. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Practice Observations: Short Bit
    Tuesday, May 25, 2009, 10:00 AM, adidas Training Field
    May 26th, 2009 . 7:45 pm . By: Buzz Carrick
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  2. pwip

    pwip Member

    Jul 10, 2004
    Dallas
    What is SH seeing? I rather watch Avi and Dax instead of david and andre
     
  3. ttujosh

    ttujosh Member

    Mar 9, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    I seriously wonder if SH not recalling Wally is a product of him being in his doghouse a bit earlier in the year. SH strikes me as a guy who loves playing head games with his players, which makes me sick but what else is new. So he recalls Shea who has started seeing the field like Wally, and Davies who hasn't but could, and Lambo who is needed just in case. Now Wally looks at that and says, well wait I have played recently, and played well, but I am not needed despite the team being in crisis? Especially when the U20 stuff is just friendlies? And I would love to see Avi get rewarded with the start, however I am convinced that the first instance Rocha gets benched, he goes AWOL or just gives up and becomes even more useless than he has been.
     
  4. Harper916

    Harper916 Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Lake Charles, La.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This just baffles the hell out of me. Last year Rocha was one of our best players, but got called out in public and served time in SH's doghouse. This year he's been inconsistent, uninterested, and imo just not very good, yet he gets start after start, even though we have others guys(Avila, Dax, Sanchez) who, given the chance, could possibly give us something much better on the right side. I don't get it.
     
  5. Wallydrag

    Wallydrag BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 24, 2002
    Oklahoma City
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When has he cost us games? If anything he's the only reason we've stayed in a few of them. Has he made mistakes? Sure. Can he improve? Definitely. But to say he's cost us games is silly. I think defensive mental lapses and defensive personnel and a lack of offense have done more to cost us games than Ray Burse, Jr. has.


    Aside from that, I'm excited to see Davies play. From eveything I've read from Buzz, he likes to talk, direct, and communicate a lot which I think will be great for the backline.
     
  6. Easton FC

    Easton FC Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jul 18, 2007
    Scurry, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, I remember not too long ago when people were ripping Ray Burse a new a-hole for what they perceived as "blown saves". Now, all of a sudden, he's a martyr of Hyndman's media mouth.

    Yes, Burse is improving, and that match against LA was a sight to see. But what is the point of criticizing Hyndman's comments to the media (which were about what HE SAID TO BURSE, not what he thought of Burse, personally) when some of the people on this board were making similar, if not more outrageous criticisms?

    Here's my observation: Burse isn't the best GK in the league, but he very well could be, soon. In my opinion, he did blow some saves earlier in the season that MAY have cost FCD matches. Yes, Hyndman could have been less revealing about his opinion, but had those criticisms not been made to Burse, he probably wouldn't have shown his true potential in that LA match and, perhaps the matches that follow.

    Please give it a rest, folks. There are more important things in life to complain about than Burse getting "insulted" (which I don't think was Hyndman's intention AT ALL...) I could care less about words. It's the intentions that bother me.

    But like I said, these are my opinions. Take them as you will.

    GO FCD!!!!!
     
  7. Trav-Man

    Trav-Man Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    fyp
     
  8. Easton FC

    Easton FC Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jul 18, 2007
    Scurry, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More like trying to put words in my mouth, a common problem amongst those who cannot agree to disagree.

    FYP is childish nonsense, but hey... You've stated your opinion, whilst I stick with mine. And mine are as follows:

    --Ray did blow some saves earlier this season, but I'm not calling him unprofessional or unworthy of the starting job. The team does have a poor defense, but Burse could have made some of those saves.

    --If the media asked Hyndman about Burse in any way, shape, or form, that is SH's business to say what he wishes, and HIS ALONE. You can have your opinion, but please remember that Hyndman isn't an evil person. He's just an enchilada short of a combination plate. That doesn't make his comments towards Ray hateful or without class.

    --Let's all remember that there are far worse problems with the team than the goalkeeper position and Hyndman has pointed that out several times. It's not as if he's blaming Burse for ALL of the teams woes. SH's real concern is figuring out how to fix these problems (and yes, he's doing a crappy job with it, but he's not PURPOSELY trying to bring the team down... then you'd truly have a right to call him evil...)

    Let's just agree to disagree and let that be the end of it. I don't like the direction the club is taking, either. There are just far worse problems with this club to complain about than Schellas' comments about Ray.

    Once again, my opinion. Stay cool, FCD faithful...
     
  9. Trav-Man

    Trav-Man Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol. Calm down man! I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth at all. I'm sorry that you feel I'm being childish by providing an opinion. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that as well....
     
  10. Rex Kramer

    Rex Kramer Thanks Rex

    Aug 1, 2007
    Plano, TX
    Easton, why does Hyndman need to bring that up in the media at all? Why does he need to say the exact words that he said to Burse in private, in a very public format? Why not say something on the lines of "Before the LA game I spoke with Ray about his past games in goal this season. I think he took what I said to heart and put in a great performance that kept the Galaxy's attack at bay" instead of what may as well be "I told Ray 'Hey Ray, it's all your fault' because it was."?

    There was absolutely no need to go into so much detail about something that should have only been between coach and player. He'd already said it to Ray and got the result he wanted. What does repeating it to the media and making Burse look a fool acheive?

    It's not the first time Hyndman's been guilty of that (Rocha and McCarty last season, McCarty again this season) and I'm certain it won't be the last because the man just doesn't seem to understand the difference between public and private.
     
  11. Trav-Man

    Trav-Man Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rex, couldn't have put it any better.
     
  12. ttujosh

    ttujosh Member

    Mar 9, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    Agreed, but you know what, it's the way he rolls. He thinks calling players out is the way to handle issues, and why should that be a surprise when it allows him to again place blame soley on players and not his lack of coaching acumen? He seems to be completely unaccountable to anyone, but demands accountability, or as Buzz labels it, trust from his players and if they dont have it, they suffer pt wise. The guy drives me nuts with everything he stands for, and with each passing day and each story media churns out, I am less and less convinced he has any chance of being successful. Look at it this way, compare him to say Sigi or Dom. When was the last time they called out players, in particular by name directly to the media? When things go wrong, good coaches band the team together, enstill an us against them mentality. Bad coaches make excuses and look for scape goats.
     
  13. Shaolin Beez

    Shaolin Beez New Member

    Mar 30, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Question still remains: will bruno suit up again this season or is his injury season ending?

    how much of a knucklehead do you have to be to build up a player, put him on the field where he does well, only to sit him the following week w/o cause?

    I swear management is trying to drive down the value of the team for a bailout.
     
  14. soccercptn

    soccercptn New Member

    Aug 9, 2000
    Plano
    You know, VDB was used at d-mid in NY a couple of times last year, which would allow us to get Avila and Sanchez out on the field.
     
  15. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Good idea, but it uses the thing known as common sense which the so called 'coach' doesn't like using.

    I see the season going in this direction.

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  16. pwip

    pwip Member

    Jul 10, 2004
    Dallas
    agree. It's just sad now.
     
  17. Easton FC

    Easton FC Member

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Jul 18, 2007
    Scurry, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not trying to split hairs or start crap in the forums, so let's get that out of the way. My point is that if, say, the media were asking SH what could have contributed to Ray Burse's stunning play of late, Hyndman could have very well thought that what he told Burse (those "classless" comments of his) made an impact on him. Nothing wrong there, IMO.

    Also, Ray doesn't need you all defending him since apparently he hasn't asked anyone to stand up for him and, as far as I know, he doesn't have a problem with the comments being made. The only people who think those comments were wrong are people trying to start unneccessary controversy. Now I'm not calling you guys the controversy whores or anything, but I've seen it all the time in the media and I simply advise you all to watch out for it.

    BOTTOM LINE: In my opinion, if Ray doesn't have a problem with Schellas' comments, then there is no problem to be had. Burse's opinion on what was said is all that matters, anyway. No fuss, no muss.

    Stay cool, FCD fans...:cool:
     
  18. JPB4

    JPB4 Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Agreed with Rex. F Hyndman. This is getting ridiculous and it is completely unacceptable. Coaching at SMU he didn’t have the media to deal with (maybe some very minor stuff) but he is an adult and should know the difference between public and private, you don’t air your dirty laundry, and you don’t dis players in the media.

    He chose to play Dax at CAM for 5 games then comes out and rips him for his play there saying he isn’t good enough. Burse is the ONLY reason the Seattle and LA games were not 3 or 4 to 1 embarrassing losses and he comes out in the media with this s**t?!

    I’ve watched every second of every game this season, every home game in person. Yes Burse has had a few mistakes, but there is a reason he is the backup GK. He has also made some saves I don’t think Sala would have made (due to his quickness and reflexes). I have not seen ONE game that was a potential win that ended up a draw due to a Burse mistake, nor one draw that ended up a loss due to a Burse error.

    What I have seen is the O struggle to create quality scoring chances and finish, and a D which lets the other team pepper the goal and get an inordinate amount of 1 v 1 with Burse.

    Burse is absolutely the LEAST of all the problems of FCD. SH can say whatever he wants to the players privately, correct or not, but he should not be coming out in the media and saying stuff like this.

    After playing Dax at CAM for 5 games, he benches him, then comes out and says this in the media:

    SH said "I think Dax is an in-between player," Hyndman said. "He's not your attacking midfielder because he doesn't have the creativity, the scoring ability, the penetrating balls or dribbles that you look for from a No. 10. He doesn't have (the qualities for) defensive midfield either. He's great for a team if you're playing with three central midfielders because he can keep possession and can get touches. He's a very good player, but you don't want to go through the season with your attacking midfielder having one goal and two assists. That doesn't add a lot to the strike force. I think we need to evaluate that position better."

    THEN WHY IN THE F! IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY TO THE SOCCER GODS HAVE YOU HAD DAX PLAYING CAM FOR FIVE (5) GAMES?!?!?!?!?!?!


    I have absolutely ZERO respect for SH as a coach or as a person and hate that he is the coach of my club.

    End of rant.
     
  19. Trav-Man

    Trav-Man Member

    Jun 7, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As far as you know...

    Maybe because Ray might actually prefer to keep negative comments about the team in-house. Wow, there's a thought! The truth is, you have no idea how Ray feels about the comments so let's not pretend like any of us do okay?

    Before we go any further, please point to a specific example in sports history, any sport, where a coach has given a similar answer to this type of question (describing, in detail, the negative comments he gave to the player) in a public forum like this? Oh, and if you can think of one, how did that player respond? Why not say something to the effect of, "We talked about aspects of his game he could improve on and Ray has worked really hard and this game was a great display of all that hard work."

    Instead we get this:

    My word to Ray before the game was, “Ray, make the saves you’re supposed to make, and don’t be a difference maker in the wrong way because you have been. You’ve been costing us games and you’ve been costing us goals. Through your enthusiasm, immaturity, and lack of experience. That only lasts so long.”

    I'd just like to say, I have no problem with him saying this to Ray. He just needs to learn to keep stuff from in the locker room, in the locker room.

    The only person starting unnecessary controversy is this dunce Schellas. Look, I was willing to give the guy some slack this year. However, I feel that if the team turns the corner this year it will be inspite of him, not because of him. His apparent lack of respect for his players and sub-par personnel decisions have effectively dried up any leniency I was willing to give him.
     
  20. Rex Kramer

    Rex Kramer Thanks Rex

    Aug 1, 2007
    Plano, TX
    Trav-Man gave my response better than I could.

    Bottom line is we don't know how Ray feels about what was said - maybe seeing that in the media makes him even more determined, or maybe he's absolutely pissed that his coach called him out in public but is professional enough to keep it to himself.
     
  21. Thedza

    Thedza Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    Funkytown
    SH's comments about Burse don't upset me that much because I like when a coach is honest about his players.

    What concerns me more is this line. "I don’t think he made any boo-boos." How old is he, 3?
     
  22. hutchtx

    hutchtx Member

    Jul 21, 2007
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My problem with this quote is the inaccuraccy -- ie, it is NEVER completely the goalkeeper's fault. If he's having to make a save, then the defense already screwed up! So it is just WRONG to tell any one player (except maybe someone who got a red card), that they cost them the game. If you can't score, you can't win, and your keeper shouldn't be needing to make a bunch of saves. :mad:
     
  23. pwip

    pwip Member

    Jul 10, 2004
    Dallas
    I think this is a glimpse into the issue. I think most of the players will take it because they do have a sense of professionalism and understanding. They really can't say anything otherwise. But deep down, thet don't like the way it's communicated. I would not like to play for him.
     
  24. cowtown

    cowtown Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Plano, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Schellas Hyndman, were he a partner and Ray a young associate attorney, speaking to a combined audience of Ray's friends, family, colleagues, former teachers, and potential future employers:

    "My word to Ray before the trial was, 'Ray, make the arguments you’re supposed to make, and don’t be a difference maker in the wrong way because you have been. You’ve been costing us cases and you’ve been costing us money. Through your enthusiasm, immaturity, and lack of experience. That only lasts so long.' What he did was take it to heart. I don’t think he made any boo-boos. His briefs could have been better, his cross-examinations could have been better, those things we can live with. But his decision making he didn’t cost us the case."

    You tell me what a young professional in any field is supposed to think about his boss making a comment like that. No, I can't get into Ray's head, but I know how I'd like to be treated as a human being.

    It's not the end of the world, but Schellas is an ass.
     
  25. Harper916

    Harper916 Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Lake Charles, La.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm wondering when Shellas is going to call out, in the media, his boy Saragosa.

    If he already has, and I've missed it, I apologize.
     

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