Powell gone?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by obie, Mar 26, 2003.

  1. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    That's like a football manager getting a vote of full confidence from the club's board.
     
  3. Roel

    Roel Member

    Jan 15, 2000
    Santa Cruz mountains
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Powell is just not a very good liar. Who do you think will replace him? William Kristol? Lewis Libby? Paul Wolfowitz? Richard Perle?

    After typing that, I really hope he stays.
     
  4. Elder Statesman

    Mar 29, 2002
    Central Park South,
    This has been going on for a while and Bush has always expressed confidence in Colin Powell. I advise liberals not to draw to much excitement from this.
     
  5. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Trust me. As a liberal, the absolute last person I want leaving this administration is Colin Powell.
     
  6. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Powell has too much power. He'll only leave if he chooses to do so.
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. I find it very disturbing that he referenced polls on his performance in his answer.
    2. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see how this came up. Maybe he was asked a direct question, in which case he pretty much had to answer as he did.

    Well, either that, or laugh it off. But then someone might spin that as a non-denial denial.
     
  8. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could see him doing it after the war.
     
  9. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one person I do like in this administration is Powell. This bites. And, IMO, would be a huge blow to Bush - I think Powell is well known and well regarded amongst moderates.
     
  10. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard this interview on NPR. It was pretty much a direct question. It basically went like this (paraphrased):

    Juan Williams: Bill Keller of the New York Times has written that you should resign because your views are not in sync with the president. What do you think of that?

    Powell: I am in sync with the president and he and the American people think I'm doing a good job and I'm not going to resign.

    EDIT: There's a link to the audio of this interview on this page:
    http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1205300.html

    This part is toward the end. Judge for yourselves. To me it seems like a non-story.
     
  11. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    This may sound silly, but why would he resign?
    Your Powell bashing never ceases to amaze me.
     
  12. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    How exactly is "I could see him doing it after the war" Powell-bashing? He said absolutely nothing bad about Powell in that sentence.
     
  13. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't want to see Powell leave. I don't think most anti-war people want to see Powell leave because we know that the last few months notwithstanding, he has been the strongest champion of moderation in the White House.

    Now, if he announced that he was leaving State because he was switching to the Democratic Party...
     
  14. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    If he wanted to resign, shouldn't he have done so two months ago?
     
  15. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I LIKE POWELL, in fact he is about the only one in the administration I like.
     
  16. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
    Bertram, TX, US
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So he can start his campaign as the Democratic challenger to Bush in the '04 campaign? It's probably the only way GW will go away.
     
  17. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less

    Sorry i quoted him. I meant in general. I know crew dust didn't bash him, and I'm sorry for accidentaly quoting him. I posed those questions for those who seem to want him gone. I think he's done a fine job, and is a big part of what i consider a dream team administration. (Just my opinion so please just swallow that statement and tell me why powell should go)
     
  18. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    It's scary how we tend to see Powell as a reasonalbe "champion of moderation" among "relative extremists" at the White House.

    This is a career military man. Military, as in, "kill people and break things." This is the man who was directed to investigate My Lai, covered up My Lai, and submitted in his autobiography:

    "If a helo [helicopter] spotted a peasant in black pajamas who looked remotely suspicious, a possible MAM [military-aged male], the pilot would circle and fire in front of him. If he moved, his movement was judged evidence of hostile intent, and the next burst was not in front, but at him. Brutal? Maybe so. But an able battalion commander with whom I had served at Gelnhausen, Lt. Col. Walter Pritchard, was killed by enemy sniper fire while observing MAMs from a helicopter. And Pritchard was only one of many. The kill-or-be-killed nature of combat tends to dull fine perceptions of right and wrong."

    The problem is clear. Right-thinking humans are relying on a psycho to mitigate the ultra-psychos who are in charge of the world's only hyper-power...

    Take back your nation in 2004...
     
  19. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    OK, so who exactly has bashed Powell on this thread?
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Noah's right. I listened to the link, and it was a direct question. Powell had to answer directly. I'm not worried about this.
     
  21. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    You actually read that book?....or are you just pulling that from "other sources" Way to call Powell a pyscho....brilliant
     
  22. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    I wish Powell would quit bashing people posting in this thread!!!
     
  23. Elder Statesman

    Mar 29, 2002
    Central Park South,
    Liberals have mixed feelings regarding Colin Powell resigning. On the one hand they will be upset because Powell pushes Bush to the Left on foreign policy. On the other hand if Powell resigns liberals can say they told us all along that Bush was an extremist and even Powell can't work with him.
     
  24. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    I didn't realize a) you were a liberal (because how else do you know what a liberal feels?) and b) that all liberals think exactly the same way about every issue. I thought you needed talk radio to achieve that level of groupthink

    Powell's got a long long way to go before he pushes anything to the left. I've learned to settle for pushing towards the center.

    We don't need Powell to resign to make that argument. Bush made it for us through his handling of the Iraq situation.
     
  25. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I cannot fault the decision of a black man to make his career in the military, because the military is a much fairer assessor and rewarder of color-blind talent than the private sector has shown itself to be.

    As far as the military being the people who kill people and break things, well yes, that is oftentimes what armies are asked to do. For better or worse, the military is a necessary part of our society. Powell has been the leading person in the Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II years who has advised these Presidents on when not to use that force.
     

Share This Page