Well as much as Australia would make sense, they are an AFC member and thus because of Saudi Arabia getting 2034, they can't bid until 2046. FIFA's bind has forced ridiculous solutions like this.
FIFA changed their regulations last year so nations from the same confederations are only ineligible for the next one. Asian nations can bid again for 2042.
Yes it does, which is why New Zealand is looking elsewhere for potential partners for 2038. I think they would be better off trying to get a partnership with Australia and Indonesia for 2042. There are still some potential long flights but no 16 hour ones.
FIFA does whatever they (Infantino) want to do .. so never say never and he will highly likely still sit in his chair when the world cup 2038 is awarded
I'm aware. I just think the Kiwis should wait until a situation arises where they can partner with Australia.
Yeah, exactly. And also, that rule about a confederation can't host for 1/2 WCs after another country in their region hosted is dumb and clearly being used just to make it easier to award WCs to US and oil countries. As soon as it gets in FIFA's way of a money-making opportunity, you'll be sure that they'll forget all about this little rule.
The rotation rule was set up because in the very early days of the World Cup, Europe and South America often had spats about the other side not coming to each other's world cup (travel costs were the main reason) and this often lead to boycotts so FIFA created it so that each side got a clear and defined turn. Over the years, it was modified to account for the other confederations given the global rise of the game so that it wouldn't just be European and South American hosts (took until 1970 for a first host outside Europe and South America, and 2002 for the origins of the current rotation system). While it has done its job, we can see how it can be misused by executives or personal pet projects instead of an actual fair rotation system.
How many Groups Could New Zealand host. Maybe 5 at most? Then the rest could be on the West Coast/Mountain Zones of the USA. Hopefully spread out in cities that did not host this time around Maybe Utah, Denver, Las Vegas, San Diego, Arizona etc. Then the Final in a new Hawaiian stadium as the article kind of alludes to.
Yeah, probably about as many as Canada is hosting in 2026. But no reason that it would be limited to just the west part of the US. Once you're on a plane for 15 hours, another 2 matters little.
Well , I just want more cities to be featured so sticking with Seattle, LA, Santa Clara and adding the new cities I mentioned would be enough to host. But I am open.
And I did not want to be biased but since I have family in the NW Suburbs of Chicago I will say I would not mind matches in the proposed new Bears stadium. Hopefully that will be open by 2038 (joking not joking)
New Zealand has one suitable stadium. If they went nuts building and expanding you could imagine getting to maybe four. Then they want one in Fiji. The new stadium on Oahu is planned for 30K capacity, so would need to be expanded to meet World Cup standards. For the final FIFA's requirement is 80K, doesn't seem likely.
Did not know the stadium would be that small but it makes sense. Maybe the quarters can be there to start bringing teams closer to a midway point.
Because of the travel distances, it makes most sense IMO to bring all teams to the same hemisphere after the group stage/right before the KOs begin. Otherwise, I think you would have to pause the WC for at least 3 days to wait for a team to travel from the Pacific and get adjusted. And yeah, the size of stadiums in the Pacific is another reason to just get all teams out of there after the group stage.
My guess is they would do something like the Groups A, B, C combined with 2 knockouts that are only featuring teams from those groups in Oceania. After that, everyone moves to USA with teams coming from Oceania having a few extra days off before their matches vs USA based opponents.
Yeah, maybe doable. But why? To @Nico Limmat 's point, any co-hosting for NZ that doesn't involve Australia doesn't make much sense. The distances involved if those 2 countries host are already similar to MIA - Vancouver.
I understand what your saying, but FIFA doesn't care about logic. That went out the window cycles ago. Australia/NZ combo just doesn't provide the dollars and wow that FIFA wants. Unless something changes the cycle will be Multi-country Euro Bid - USA with someone else - Autocratic Country. Africa may get in there eventually, as will a pan-Asia bid. South America doesn't even want to or make money hosting it's own tournament... they aren't hosting a World Cup. They will be a combo with the USA as well.
Yeah, I agree - I think NZ-Australia co host opportunity has come and gone. Maybe NZ-AUS-Singapore along with Indonesia and/or Thailand would work. That would also be more logical than NZ-US and may have that 'wow' factor.
Yeah, I like that better. It will get more and more enticing if Indonesia continues their status upgrade.
If next summer is as profitable as seems likely, they'll be chomping at the bit to get another WC in the US. New Zealand can play the Canada/Mexico role and host group B and maybe a couple of knockouts before the remaining teams fly stateside to finish with everyone else
And I am all for it as long as there's stadiums and cities that missed out this time that people want to travel to. USA can host it every other cycle with so many stadiums.
And that’s really what you want, isn’t it. Every other World Cup in the US and every other Copa America as well.