Post-Game Thread: CCC 4/5 Dynamo @ Pachuca [R]

Thank you ! Our team gave all and I'm a proud Dynamo supporter .

 

Key points for me after reading the reviews. When I saw the size of the pitch, I was worried from the start. That would have been the case even if the stadium was at sea level. We are in preseason form, and the challenge of playing at altitude and on such a large pitch was too much to overcome. This game showed our real gamers; Ching, Mullan, Barrett, Robinson, Moreno. Incredible athletes who were not to be intimidated even by the superior ball skills and passing ability of Pachuca. DeRo is still showing the rust and the need for conditioning from his hamstring pull and just could not put his stamp on the game. Clark would have helped. Davis has got to deal with lack of conditioning and decide whether he is to be a pro or not. I can't blame this loss on the ref; he and the linesmen missed a few crucial calls, but they were judgment calls and could have gone either way. I marvelled at the ability of the Pachuca team to move the ball at pace and speed; again, we are not in full form but even in that form the game would have been most challenging. I'm proud of how we hung in there after the first two goals and fought hard, but I hope those players who lack the conditioning necessary to contribute in these difficult situations make a commitment to fitness. Teaching fluidity and tactical awareness to upcoming players still needs to be addressed by our player development system in the U.S.

 

something else i noticed last night.....have you ever seen a player fall down as much as Ching did last night?He must have lost his footing about 7 or 8 times,as well as DeRo and others ,what was that all about?

also......Ching missed a point blank header that I bet he makes 99 out of 100
times......Preseasoneseasonpreseason...............


I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

hey guys, big chivas fan here. i know people have already made this point but i have to make it again. if SUPERLIGA has these matches i cant wait! just think of rivalries and interest that would grow. and im sure the pachuca fans who might not have known much about the dynamo before the game will definitely remember them with a match like that. this is definitely what mls needs.

 

I don't think True Mexico fans are disparaging much anymore. After the results, they have to know they were a bit lucky to make it through. True just like any other sport you skimming fans that really don't know much either way -- just spouting what the media says (MLS can't hang with Mex league). This is no longer the case. It is an equal....and we are gonna have some great games with even more controversy in the future....should be great for both leagues. Was glad the teams got along and there really was not much "fighting". Oh, please keep that Canadian ref off the field for the remaining games. I have seen the guy do other games and he is a atrocious, incompetent, d-league referee.

Oh, also, we really, really, really missed Clark last night, but I suppose that is why you need a deeper bench. Wish Holden would have started the game too...and why the hate on Ianni?

 

I don't think I have ever experienced so many mood swings in the course of 3 hours. I was a nervous wreck (and pretty drunk) and had to go sleep on it before commenting. This morning it occurs to me that I had watched one of the more entertaining games I have seen in years. First it looked like we were about to be demolished. When the 2 goal advantage dissapeared so quicky, I was sure we were doomed. But the Dynamo did what the Dynamo do. They Never! Ever! Quit. Even when Pachuca was running circles around them, the Orange found a way to get within 5 minutes of reaching the finals. And even when they fell behind in OT, they still nearly pulled it out. In the end I am damn proud of the Big Orange and I tip my hat to Pachuca. What a speedy and highly entertaining team. And like Rulas said, if SuperLiga can come up with this kind of action, the rivalries will be a huge boost for both leagues.

 

And how can the DC and Houston results make you think we can't? Pachuca is probably one of the top 5 teams in the hemisphere and the best team in Mexico. It wasn't long that MLS' elite teams would lost 6-1 on aggregate and now, they are pushing these teams to the brink. I don't understand your logic.

How can you compare DC and Houston's results to LA's and the Revs from last year? DC throttled Olympia AWAY and on aggregate and Houston became the first MLS team EVER to win a home/away against a Costa Rican team. LA and the Revs got nowhere near that.

There was a time not so long ago where MLS teams couldn't even play with Mexican teams.

If by "completely squandered" you mean "Calero made an insane save" then I agree. He made an insane save in extra time too. I don't think that was completely squandered either.

The only thing I agree with. To completely squander our 2 goal advantage in 15 minutes was incredible and disappointing. Personally, however, I'll remember the way they fought back when they could have rolled over and through it all, were a mere 5 minutes away from beating the best team in Mexico and the reigning Sudamericana champions. They could have easily rolled over but didn't.

 

good fight, this was way more respectable than roll over and play dead from certain clubs last year

See you at RFK in November.

 

Brian Ching's rookie mistake...

...he didn't bring two pairs of boots!!! He was slipping all over the place in the Pachuca game. I was waiting for him to change them at the half but no. He never really had his footing and it was only lucky that Houston got the calls when he fell.

A slippery Brian Ching versus a very stable one is not a good trade off. With a pair of soft ground Pumas the score would have been at least 5-4 (5-6) at the end.

 

Re: Brian Ching's rookie mistake...

Um he doesn't want the one that stick into the ground too much that would kill his knee.

 

Re: Ricardo clark

Yeah, let's not have him suffer a "Lidge".

 

Re: Brian Ching's rookie mistake...

Great game from the Dynamos last night. I woke my wife up twice last night (no, not for that reason ), yelling and screaming at the TV. I know moral victories are still losses, but DC & Houston did MLS proud over the last several weeks. Chivas & Pachuca, in particular (and FMF in general), know the quality of MLS sides, now. Too bad we couldn't have faced each other in the CCC Championship match.

 

Congrats to the Dynamo! Even in a loss your club fought hard against a top Mexican team. I watched that game, I was rooting for you guys all the way! Dynamo represented MLS and the USA very well! Believe me I saw the faces in the crowd, those Pachuca fans were actually worried, and they had a reason to be. MLS has arrived! I really feel this. good job Houston!


YNWA!

 

Its official, I love the Dynamo.

 

Word, I was watching at a party, the party full of non soccer fans, that wound up living and dying with every goal and run. It was an awesome experience that I hope will get repeated.

Everyone noticed the worried looks all throughout the crowd with the guy looking like he was about to faint from anticipation when it was 4-3 on aggregate.

 

Re: Ricardo clark

Lidge is different because Pujols ruined him. Wells is not yet ruined, he had a great game yesterday he guessed right on one of the penalties and he had a couple of saves that kept us close.

 

I agree with a lot of what you say. MLS teams have come a long way, and most of my disappointment is that I was hoping they were there already, amongst the best in the hemisphere, but it appears they are not. Perhaps that was an unrealistic hope. It's true that Houston and DC made valiant efforts for the most part and played well. It's the little subtle things like dumb mental mistakes, that are the only difference (like Perkins blown save...argh!!!) And where's the killer instinct when you have a team on the ropes? It's like there's a mental block against winning in Mexico. I guess the SuperLiga will give us another chance, and in mid-season form. As far as the Galaxy last year, they also had a very good Costa Rican team on the brink and let them back in by caving under pressure.

 

you are just as stupid as that dude is, first thing on the thread posted is dont feed the trolls.........

the Dynamo played with more heart than talent and that will only take you so far.

 

Lessons from Pachuca

A few...

1. Never leave Ricardo Clark at home.

2. Do not play Craig Waibel at FB against non-MLS opposition.

3. Always believe you can get the result. In the first half, we were firmly on the back foot and looked like we did not belong on the same pitch.

We showed a tremendous amount of heart, and that was great to see after the first half. I hope we can bottle that up and use it for the rest of the season.

In watching that game, it's clear we need to get a lot faster in order to stay with non-MLS competition...especially the Mexicans. Obviously, it'll be more difficult to bridge the skill gap, but I think we can find faster players who can at least recover more effectively and better stay between their man and goal. The passing out of the back is an obvious area for improvement also. Bad passing from the back four will hurt you no matter who you are playing.

I'm encouraged despite the result because I realize we're obviously no where near match fitness overall, and just took one of the top teams in Mexico 120 minutes on their field.

We can and should build on this.

 

Re: Lessons from Pachuca

The best thing that we can take from this game is that we have to play these kind of teams as much as possible. Also, get that number 19 into our league. God he is awesome.

 

Re: Lessons from Pachuca

DC does a much better job of getting it to their midfielders. I don't think you can make a fair comparison on how fast we were because guys were playing out of position, and it was at high altitude (Ecuador has 100% home record because they play on a ********ing mountain).

 

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Re: Lessons from Pachuca

I keep reading this idea that teams that play at high altitudes have an advantage while playing at home because most of their opponents aren't used to the thin air and thus can't get as much oxygen in their blood compared to the levels that they are used to.

I'm wondering if the flip side of that is true: do players who are used to playing at high altitudes play better at low altitudes because they're able to take in more oxygen than what they are normally used to?

Also, anybody have any stats as to how "high altitude teams" do when they play against each other?

 

Re: Lessons from Pachuca

Isn't he in his mid-30s or something? In that case, he's of the right age to be a DP

 

Hey guys, just wanted to stop by and give you props on a hard fought match last nite. This yr in the CCC marked a tremendous growth in terms of quality for the Mls. They are no longer the cakewalk teams that they used to be. They have gained respect, not just from the mexican fans(like me) but also from the Mexican teams in general. Just listening to Caballero and Bofo talk during half time about how complicated the matches were and giving praises to thier opposition should serve as an indication. Im actually looking foward to the Superliga. Houtson Dynamo fans should keep thier head up. This was a very complicated match...and alot of people tend to forget the calibur team they were playing. Pachuca is tough, the football thier playing right now,IMO, is amongst the best in world football today....they are SouthAmreican cup winners afterall...and ANY team that goes up against them is going to find out. Houston is a great team, worthy champions of the Mls. I wish the Dynamo and thier fans the best for this upcomming season. Ill be watching.