POST GAME: Selección Colombia vs Uruguay (amistoso)

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

El problema no es si Gio jugò bien o menos.
Para mi jugò un partido discreto y bastante mediocre.
Si uno viene a jugarse el puesto para ser el armador del equipo tenes que mostrar mucho mas tenes que mostrar liderazgo ganas garra. no hacer dos pases en vertical y cumplir...
A eso es que me refiero.
Tiene razon Ruy cuando dice que Gio nos da mas lentitud al equipo es cierto pq es un referente para los adversarios no se mueve entre las lineas no hay movilidad en el manejo por eso digo afuera.
Si a ustedes les parece que dos pases en diagonal sn suficientes para tenerlo en la selecciòn yo digo no!!!
No se busco un balòn solo no le metio la pata a un contraste.
Hoy en dia hay que peliarlas todas ir a buscar el balon no solo esperarlo...

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

Los Urus son un equipo complicado, tal vez junto con Paraguay y Argentina de los mas agerridos y fisicos que se van a encontrar. Pero este era un amistoso y todo el mundo juega con cierta prudencia. Si Giovanni no lucio en un partido sin relevancia, como se puede esperar que se eche el equipo al hombro cuando la clasificacion al mundial este en juego? Era su oportunidad de dejar otra impresion, de callar al menos momentaneamente a los que decimos que es un jugador que se agranda con los chicos y se achica con los grandes, pero por el contrario, nos volvio a dar toda la razon: Giovanni, vete a meter cinco pases gol contra Quindio y a ser figura contra el Bucaramanga, para eso es para lo que alcanza tu grandeza...

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

No le demos tanto palo a Gio. Ya creo que salimos todos de la duda que no puede con la seleccion.. me parece que hizo bien en llamarlo.. mas porque que venia jugando muy bien con equipos en argentina y chile.. se le dio la oportunidad ya se sabe que es un man de club y no de seleccion.. gracias por los esfuerzos pero sigamos con aldo y macnelly.. que empiece a llamar a Stalin Mota y al pelado del envigado... asi sea para que se de un paseo con la seleccion...
hay que renovar... y tener suplentes aparte de Macnelly y Aldo...
Me sorprende mucho lo de Edixon...
Nos quejamos que no teniamos goles de delantero y este man que no juega y no jugo (porque le rebotaba el balon de los pies) hizo dos goles.. A mi personalmente no importa que pierda 100 balones y haga dos goles... que no haga ni pase.. pero que la meta en el arco...
Para eso son los delanteros para meterla... Igual hay que verlo en accion en otros partidos... pero si no estoy mal tambien hizo gol en la copa america.. parece que solo rinde con la seleccion y no con los clubes.. acordemosno de Hagi el rumano.. hizo lo que hizo con su seleccion y no srivio para un culo con los clubs....

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

Estoy de acuerdo casi con todo.
Lo ultimo es incorrecto.
Hagi cn su clubes gano:
Dos Supercopas Europeas una con la Steaua y otra con el Galatasaray
Una Uefa siempre cn el Galatasaray.
En el Barcelona tambien mostro futbol pero no fue costante.
Ojala Edixon le diera a la selecciòn o a sus clubes un cuarto de lo que dio Hagi al futbol

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

we have 8 points and 6 of those 8 came from bustos. now a lot of people dont want to see him on the team anymore, incredible just incredible

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

i did not want him on the team before the two goals....he is a really bad defender and his abilities to score blind people of this fact

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

Haggi fue uno de los mejores Volantes en los 80`s y 90`s en Europa
Gano Dos super Copas una en el 86 Con el Satuga
una en 2000 Con Galataxaria..donde tambien fue campeon de la Uefa
ese mismo año
3 Ligas Rumanas 87 88 89 Con el Stagua
4 Ligas Turkas 97 98/ 99 00
2 Super còpas de españa en el 90 con el Real Madrid y en el 94 con el Barca

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

I stand corrected on Hagi....
No se porque tenia la impresion que fracaso cuando fue a europa occidental.. en el Barcelona..

 

Int. Friendly - Uruguay vs Colombia 06.02.08 (Montevideo, URU) full game

posted it on maxxed and guess some might like to see it again over ere.

VS




Format: WMV
Play with: Windows Media Player or VLC Media player
Size: 220mb
Commentary: English
GolTV
Quality is very watchable




part 1
part 2
part 3
done!



****UPDATE****
a software i use made a mistake and it corrupted the last SEVEN minutes of the game, because of this I have uploaded just these last minutes as a lot happened in that time, sorry about this.

last 7 mins of the game

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

the problem is that no one else is scoring, and im not talking about friendlies

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

look at the bustos forum...

for now:

take the infamous game aginst boca in buenos aires:

to get somethings out of the way....yes it is true the game should have been cancelled bc of the weather and it sucked that blas perez did not play......we could cry all we want about these two factors but then this is what we should also examine

1.no blas perez, i.e. no attack
2. bad and unfair conditions

fine

this also meant, no manner of making quality free kicks and bustos' ability went out the door almost immediately.....the only thing cucuta had to do in that game was not loose by more than one goal and, in fact, a zero-zero result was enough to beat boca and go the final....

in other words, cucuta had to defend and defend well angainst a home team that can shoot free kicks in the dark and blind bc they have that field memmorized.....

but look closely at goal number two....the ball gets centred from the right and it is precisely bustos who get there a year too late and in goal number three he is just standing ball watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJRKrFOeDaA

we needed a tie or loose by one.....

the point is that if you take his free kick away and when you seriously need to defend then bustos is a hindrance

you can say that it is bc of him that cucuta and colombia re where they are but this is all he will ever do....its best to drop him before we get into a boca cucuta situation with the NT....thanks bustos, you did your part and now we have a chance thanks to you, but here is your tinto and your seat on the bench

ps. the boca goal against cucuta in cucuta was also his fault!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPgZd...eature=related

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

This is ridiculous Bustos is the saviour of the team and the claim that he should be on the bench shows how ungrateful we can be. Bustos free kicks not only almost guarantees us a goal from the dead ball but it also gives more room for our mid-field to work. Dont you guys remember how cautious the Argentine defense was when we approaced their area? They did not foul us once or go in hard when we were 30 yards within their goal. This is a great advantage to our players, and do you remember what happened the first time that a colombian player was fouled close to the Argentinian goal?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeR5rgeJISs

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

Alonso presents one view, K1000 presents the opposite.

What to do with a player that is so one-dimensional? If at least he was good at crossing, but from I've seen he is not very good with the ball in movement. Granted, you have a very powerful weapon in his free kicking ability (somewhere I heard that 40% of goals in modern football are scored in free kicks - both directly and indirectly).

But what about the other 89 minutes of the game? Should you just let him do the best he can or try to hide his shortcommings with another player? We've seen numerous offensive-minded backs that have been aligned and somehow their teams have managed to hide bad defenders as left/right backs - Roberto Carlos, Diego Alves, Mancini (only brazilians come to mind) - but they at least can dribble and cross decently.

My take is different. Play him off the bench. Give him 20 or 30 minutes at the end of the game and modify the tactics accordingly. If we had another at least decent kick taker it might work, but that is our problem, we don't.

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

end of the game? disagree, beginning, if we can get a goal or two from a free kick in the 1st half okay, do not leave bad defending open for the 2nd half..better up one in the 1st half than down 2 in the last 10 minutes of a game

 

Re: Pre-Game Uruguay vs Colombia, Montevideo Feb 06

granted the opposite happened in the friendly against uru, but that game had alot of other errors contributing to that score. and Bustos shots seem to come from 2nd half desperation on behalf of our opponents, which leads to a free kick from a apenalty outside the box! This is a puzzle that really makes no sense!

 

no one mention that the subs made by Pinto had the team producing less
they even looked tired and slow at times
Mcnelly? que paso con el los pocos minutos que le dieron, se cayo el medio campo
Zuniga....entro en el peor momento, en su llegada nos metieron el primero....de madrugon y saque de banda

Guarin.....merece volver a la banca del equipo!
Bustos es un buen suplente que sabe cobrar tiros libres.

 

Hablando de Gio...segun Mejia Pinto le dijo que si el partido fuera oficial no hubiera sacado nunca a Gio..porque es quien le puede manejar los tiempos

 

O si Macnelly no hiso nada, solo el pase para el 2ndo gol..pero eso es nada cierto?

 

i doesnt matter what macnelly did. its obvious hes our best #10 right now. and totono needs a spot on the NT.

 

1. Yo solamente estoy diciendo lo que segun Mejia dijo Pinto..entonces no responda como si yo hize el comentario de forma personal

2. Ud,sabe como es Pinto de recatado mas si esta jugando de visitante...y estoy seguro que si este partida era oficial..estarmiamos ganando 0-1 Faltando 20 Min Pinto mete un jugador tipo Banguero mejor dicho uno que corte el Juego y no sacaria a Hernandez.que segun el le maneja el juego

Obvio que fue mas importante el pase de Torres que lo q hizo Hernandez...pero seguramente Pinto lo piensa de la manera ya mencionada