Alert: Portugal vs Hungary

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by JoseEmidio, Jun 18, 2016.

  1. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
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    Portugal vs Hungary

    (1926) Portugal 3 Hungary 3 (Friendly)
    (1933) Portugal 1 Hungary 0 (Friendly)
    (1938) Portugal 4 Hungary 0 (Friendly)
    (1956) Portugal 2 Hungary 2 (Friendly)
    (1966) Hungary 1 Portugal 3 (FIFA WC)
    (1983) Portugal 0 Hungary 0 (Friendly)
    (1998) Hungary 1 Portugal 3 (UEFA Q)
    (1999) Portugal 3 Hungary o (Friendly)
    (2009) Hungary 0 Portugal 1 (FIFA WCQ)
    (2009) Portugal 3 Hungary 0 (FIFA WCQ)

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  2. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    A lot of porkchops will be praying for a win. Haha
     
  3. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Well history is in our favour but we need to put the ball in the net.
     
  4. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Qualification Scenarios:

    If Portugal loses they are out.

    If Portugal win they go through as group leaders as long as Iceland do not win.

    If Portugal and Iceland win both go through it goes down to goal difference and so on...

    If Iceland draws against Austria 0-0 then we need to draw 2-2 against Hungary to go through a group runners up and so on ( Iceland 1 Austria 1 means Portugal need a 3-3 draw). If Iceland draw 0-0 with Austria and we draw against Hungary 1-1 then it will go to Fair Play i.e. how many cards, right now Iceland has 3 yellows and Portugal 2 yellows which means at the moment Portugal go through in second place.

    If we lose out to Iceland (both 3 points) for second place we can still go through as one of the 4 best 3rd placed teams but then we will meet the winner of group D which will be either Spain or Croatia. We play on the last day (17:00) with only Group E (Italy, Belgium, Sweden, Ireland) playing after us (20:00) by which time we would have a better idea about other 3rd placed sides i.e. 3rd placed qualification.



    Euro 2016 Group Stage Qualification Permutations

    The top two teams in each group are guaranteed to qualify for the round of 16 at Euro 2016, and they will be joined by the four best third-place teams. There are six groups.

    In the event that two or more teams finish level on points within a group, the tiebreakers are as follows:

    1. Head-to-head points between the teams in question.
    2. Head-to-head goal difference between the teams in question.
    3. Head-to-head goals scored between the teams in question.
    4. Goal difference in all group games.
    5. Goals scored in all group games.
    6. If two teams are still level and play each other in the final group game, they will have a penalty shootout.
    7. Fair play record (three points for a red, one for a yellow).
    8. Drawing of lots.

    In deciding the best third-place teams, the tiebreakers are:

    1. Points.
    2. Goal difference.
    3. Goals scored.
    4. Fair play record (three points for a red, one for a yellow).
    5. UEFA national team coefficient ranking.



     
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  5. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    W7 D3 L0

    We even drew against them 2-2 in 1956 which was the time Hungary had its best ever side and one of the best ever according to experts, Puskás Hungary.
     
  6. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    BTW the balls over the fans picture above is a symbol of all our missed chances, so far...:whistling:
     
  7. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Cinco a zero
     
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  8. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The last time we drew the first two games in a major competition was at Euro 1984 also in France.

    In our first game we drew 0-0 with West Germany.

    In our second game we drew 1-1 with Spain with Sousa scoring for us.

    In our third game needing a win we beat Romania 1-0 with a goal from the great Nené in the 81st minute.

    In the next game against France in the semi final (only 8 teams in the final) we were 1-1 at the end of normal time with a goal from Jordão who also put us 2-1 ahead in extra time ('98) before Domergue '114 equalised and Plantini scored a winner just before penalties in the 119 minute.

    We just need another 1-0 to basically repeat 1984!

    :thumbsup:
     
  9. forza_azzurri

    forza_azzurri Member

    May 31, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Go ahead and win the group . Belgium will be waiting for you. Good luck [emoji3]



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  10. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    I will feel sorry for Belgium. I bet they are hoping this nightmare doesn't come true.
     
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  11. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well it will probably be Italy, Spain, Croatia or Belgium if we go through. So there is no easy side in the last 16 for us. Whereas if Italy wins the group they would face Iceland, Hungary or Portugal so for Italy it would better if Portugal wins the group. So maybe Italy will be hoping for a bit of luck to make it easier. ;)
     
  12. forza_azzurri

    forza_azzurri Member

    May 31, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Italy has already won their group. Won't be facing Portugal next round like most predicted.


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  13. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #13 JoseEmidio, Jun 18, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2016
    Yes you are right Italy have already won the group but we only need to finish second for the Italy vs Portugal game to happen which is possible with two draws and some other factors going our way as I posted above. Since we have a bad record against Italy I would rather face Belgium (probably). What team out of Portugal, Iceland or Hungary do you fancy the most?

    Or am I missing something as I see the Italian forum is talking about facing Spain or Croatia?
    Will have a look tomorrow, looks like I made a mistake.
     
  14. parkben1

    parkben1 Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    brooklyn
    All the big teams are wishing that Portugal get eliminated. They can be dangerous. They remind me of Italy 1982 World Cup team.
     
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  15. forza_azzurri

    forza_azzurri Member

    May 31, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    No. The runner up in F plays the runner up in B. It's messed up because they are going from 24 to 16 teams. In some cases it's better to finish 2nd or 3rd [emoji3]


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  16. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Just checked you are right :thumbsup: If Portugal finish second they play the second placed team in Group B (England, Wales, Slovakia or Russia). If we finish first we play the second in Italy's group (Belgium?) if we finish third and qualify we play either Group C winner probably Germany or Group D winner probably Spain. Hopefully I have got this right but don't know how, if you finish third it is decided which of the the group winners you play as for each third placed side qualifying there are two possibilities.
     
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  17. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Hungary will play for a draw next game. They are set. Gonna park that bus in front of the goal.
     
  18. parkben1

    parkben1 Member

    Feb 18, 2006
    brooklyn
    Parking the bus didn't stop Portugal offense. It was the lack of quality finishing and excellent goaltending. Maybe I'm wrong but didn't Portugal have 14 shots on target today and that's not counting the two post.
     
  19. Sumol

    Sumol Member+

    Portugal
    Oct 12, 2011
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #19 Sumol, Jun 18, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2016
    Will Hungary's 41 year old goalkeeper have the game of his life against us?

    He looks like my garbage man.

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  20. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I like the Hungary's keeper lack of self consciousness in his attire but what is much more important is that he has looked very poor with his feet, decision making and coming out for crosses which hopefully will compensate for our bad finishing.
     
  21. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #21 CDPontaDelgada, Jun 19, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2016
    The Hungarians looked ok against Austria their first game and took away the Austrians dark horse label but after the way we played against Austria the only difference is we didn't put the ball in the netbut we completely outplayed Iceland and Austria.

    Yesterday the Hungarians were absolutely lucky to get the point against Iceland.
     
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  22. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Hungary wasn't lucky to get the point. They kept trying and their give and go passing for the tie was pretty awesome. They don't look very strong but they can break us down for a goal and we have have another off day, we won't win the game.

    I also guarantee that their goalie will probably have the game of his life like all goalies do against Portugal.
     
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  23. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    This guy looks like the bricklayer that worked with my dad 10 years ago.
     
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  24. CDPontaDelgada

    CDPontaDelgada Member+

    CD Santa Clara
    Aug 15, 2012
    Ponta Delgada PT
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Both the Austrian and Iceland goalkeepers got MOTM cards on FIFA

    I know it's just a game but it goes to show you how an average goalkeeper intend to have stellar games against us

    I recall the Albanian goalkeeper playing a great game in the groups

    Then we play goalkeepers of high quality and make them look average

    Sigh
     
  25. BatatasFritas

    BatatasFritas Member+

    Nov 29, 2004
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Porto
    These goalies get all pumped up for these games. Very intensive concentration. If they don't have the game of their lives, their team will get crushed.
     

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