Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by F.P.F.4life, Aug 26, 2009.
Danes and swedes are like cousins, but when it comes to soccer, we are absolutely arch enemies. Bad blod, big time. You should have seen the commetaries before the game in Stockholm.
The Italians might like to say that the 2-2 game in EC 2004 that eliminated them was fixed, but everybody who watched the game saw the two teams fight as mad.
Aggers absence was a big loss. He calms the defense and let the midfield look forward. The portugese goal wouldn't have happend if he was onboard (told you, that without him Portugal would score at least one goal). Kahlenberg is our creative midfielder, also he was sorely missed today.
Now it's up to you to let the portuguese proud! GO DENMARK!
In CQ we do not trust!
Go support your own mercs.
Your right. CQ is an idiot and won't realize to use REAL strikers even after this game. He wouldnt know how to add 1+1 even if he had a calculator.
Exactly! I agree. Both are important and equal. I adore Benfica with all my heart. Too the point where I got the symbol tattooed on my arm. But then again, Portugal is Portugal. I have soo much pride and display it every chance I get.
Well this was dissapointing, SA is pretty much done at this point. Our problem, as always in recent years, we don't score goals. The Portuguese federation needs to find a way to convince the Sporting academy to use their magic touch on developing strikers for the next few years. We haven't been able to score goals in qualifiers since Pauleta retired. At least under the Scolari teams we had a tough defense and passionate spirit that made up for it. All that is gone under Queiroz and we still don't score.
I hate to say it but this team cycle is done, it's too old now. Relying in part on Simao, Gomes, Deco, and Liedson for the offence is a recipe for disaster. Simao is the youngest guy and he'll be 30 in October. Leidson can score but at 31 are we going to take him into Euro, I doubt it. It's time for a new start our 2000's golden age is over. First step, fire Queiroz.
Maybe its time to call Rui Costa, Figo and Pauleta out of retirement.
You may be joking, but in reality, that is REALLY what needs to be done. Think about it. We have the best wingers in the world, CR7, Nani, Simao, Quaresma, etc. All produced by Sporting. And why are they wingers? Because thats how its done there. You think Ronaldo would be a winger if he was born in Italy? This "problem" of too many wingers needs to be addressed.
If Portugal plays Hungary like they played Denmark they won't have a goal til the 88th minute...
Liedson starting playing football later then most players, he still has a few years left in him..just last season he scored 17 goals in the league I believe.
Deco also proved today he's still got it, he'll be ok.
Simao needs to go though after the world cup.
The best lineup vs hungary:
The image of Simao missing those two glorious chances irritates me greatly.
Agree on all points. The coach sucks, and the players didn't help him out one bit.
Read carefully, I said if you play the same way as you did today, with the change of Liedson starting and Simao/Nani in place of meireles on the left you'll score frequently, at times..especially most of the first half and the last 20 minutes of the second..the tempo and pressing was unrelenating by you lot.
Strange, at the beggining of the match I was pessimistic but now that I took a look at our group, I believe Sweden will surely draw or lose against Denmark. 28 years without losing in danish soil, some key players will be back and they hate each others (football wise).
Goal average might be an issue but I believe that we still depend on ourselves.
Even CQ isn't that dumb, I'm honestly ok with him starting the same tactic in the first half since we dominated the midfield and had 4 CLEAR CHANCES. All he needs to do is to replace Liedson with Simão and we're done. He also has to convince the players to go on full attack mode.
Now, fantasizing a bit. Imagine we do get to the WC...CQ will still be on board.
Yeah but CQ won't start Liedson. Hes a jackass. When Liedson and Nuno Gomes entered the game is when Portugal started to look more dangerous. Today was a total disapoitment. A lot of things need to change.
Two wingers as forwards?!?!?!
3 CD's in a must win game?!?!?!
The fact is the formation we started with was great but putting 3 DM's and 2 wingers as strikers was in a word, RETARDED.
The team is not mentally ready for these games at all, they only show life when desperate. CQ HAS dragged us out of the WC for the second time in as many NT managerial call ups.
Like to point out. We are out.
If anyone here believes that Sweden will not win all 3 of there remaining games they are on crack. Sorry ChessPanther, while Denmark and Sweden do hate each other when it's do or die, when it comes to situations like this or drawing each other so they both can progress they have no problems doing it. Expect Denmark to field a youth side vs Sweden. They will call it a Nordic victory like they did in 2004.
Not that it matters we will muster only a draw vs Hungary Wednesday. Then the focus will be on CQ and how he will convince the FPF that it was all his players fault as he keeps his job till Euro 2012 and believe me with him as coach we aint making that either.
Our biggest strength has always been our attacking midfield... who starts the game? Pepe, Meireles and Tiago all fine players but all 3 are DEFENSIVE. How in the world could we ever employ a coach who doesn't even know what our strengths and weaknesses are?
We could of had the one of the best Brazilian goal scorers as our coach. Zico even has Portuguese blood in his veins something CQ clearly does not.
Thats cuz Simao in a LW and not a striker. Put him where Nani is and he is amazing.
Plus we've learned Ronaldo plays better at RW.
So I want to see...
If need to focus on scoring. Im going with actual strikers.
Simao is still a starter IMO because he should play LW/LM where he belongs, not as a striker. Nani does play well with Ronaldo since they played together so I dont mind him starting, but as long as Simao isnt a striker, is on my XI. Just because Simao didnt do great as a striker, doesnt mean he shouldnt be a starter.
Remember the game vs. Liechenstein, he was amazing and everyone was saying loving him as a striker. Bad game today as a ST doesnt get him off my list.
I agree with GoodDead. Sweden will win in Denmark.
Nice lineup....0-0 Final.
Ronaldo is not a Striker, Tiago is not a Winger, Pepe is not a DM, Duda is not an LB. It's OK though CQ makes those same mistakes all the time too.
Like I said 13692383792774392879847 times in order for us to score and look lethal we need 2 Strikers on the field.
Portugal 5-0 Hungary if we start with that lineup.
Wait, a line-up with only 2 CD's and 2 true forwards? And Ronaldo in is natural position? That makes too much sense for CQ.
To steal a line from Tropic Thunder, a nutless monkey could do your job CQ. Seriously.
Indeed! What this man has managed to do to our football will take decades to recover. He is inept, lacks imagination, the knowledge and the ability to manage a national side. How long will it take for FPF to come their senses?
What little respect I had for CR is gone. What a pathetic and selfish performance and arrogant cs! How can anyone say that this man is a great player? How can you even mention him in the same breath as Kaka and Messi? K and M shine when playing with the national team. They inspire and lead their teams and their fellow players. CR simply lacks the leadership qualities to be a great player!
What a sad, pathetic performance by SS, Nulo Gomes, BA, Deco, CR, RM and L. (Sure he scored one goal but he should have had three!)
Congratulations to JB. The man played like a giant. He was simply our best player on the pitch!!!!
finally someone starting both gome and liedson and putting ronaldo where he belongs!!!!
I like that lineup but I'd move Veloso to the DM, bench Maniche and put in Miguel at the LB. The only problem is that front 3 is incredibly slow and non-physical. You're relying a lot on Nani and Ronaldo on the wings to do the heavy lifting.
Blame... the coach but blame the players. This team simply sucks overall. When Figo and Pauletta left they simply sucked. Pauletta could score so many goals vs decent teams like this. Denmark is average at best, but they blew it.
Blame the players and coach, but something good will come out of this for 2012. Just like England not making the Euro 2008, and they will probably win 2010 World Cup.
Portugal will be awesome after this crap is over.
I think Deco played great but when you give service to wingers to finish like strikers the results are what we see.
Bruno Alves sucks, He is good for headers in the offensive zone but he seems to always make 1 costly mistake, today he handed Denmark a freebie.
The players have 100 times more quality then Denmark but were no where near mentally prepared to beat the Danes. This game is all CQ's fault just like every game he has been in charge.
FFS this idiot has never maintained a winning record over 59% and with what team was that 59%? real Madrid aka a HUGE FAILURE.
With Portugal he maintains a 45% winning record....THAT IS A JOKE
Considering the games left to play, I wouldn't mind that lineup at all.
I would only make two changes. Duda still playing as a LB since he adds more offensively to the flank than Veloso ever will. And Veloso for Maniche, the kid is better at everything less pace.