POLL: Poch, should he continue as US coach?

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Kyle Crew, Jul 16, 2026.

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If you were the USSF, would you bring back Poch for 2030?

  1. Yes - bring him back

  2. No - hire a new coach

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  1. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dolo. And that's a serious answer.
     
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  2. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry, does this post describe GGG or Poch? Because last time I checked Poch got destroyed by Belgium (multiple times), beat by Turkey (multiple times), and in fact could only beat shitty ass Bosnia. Did I miss some huge CONCACAF wins somewhere in there by Poch?

    People can shit on GGG all they want. I don't love the guy, but I don't hate him either. There is no debating his record vs Poch's as US manager though. None. There isn't a single thing Poch did better than GGG.

    Also, asking Adams to run a midfield by himself v Belgium... not Poch's best idea, talk about ego.
     
  3. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are you talking about? The vast majority of the squad was born and raised here in the US, and came up through American academies before going to Europe. Knowing the ecosystem means understanding the American player, not the German players that were born and raised there and came up through German academies, or English players born and raised there and brought up in English academies.

    I'm pro-dual nats, but there is a clear difference in how foreign born Americans were raised and trained in comparison to domestic born Americans. Simple fact, our system really sucks and it's hard to understand how much it sucks until you've spent a long time here, as Poch said himself recently.

    That's understanding the ecosystem, not just looking at where dudes play now.
     
  4. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dolo and Matarazzo are both serious answers, though the latter has no interest in the job right now. Domestic born and raised guys that spent the vast majority of their lives living in Europe. Dudes that are smart, willing to work their way up the ladder from the bottom, and have some form of success already as a coach.
     
  5. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was the other guy I was thinking of.
     
  6. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Meh, I don't concern myself with the USMNT getting results in CONCACAF, since they've already decided to make every tournament a cashgrab joke.

    So you relished the draw to Wales, among other stellar results?

    Wait, you missed the "MMA midfield " that had Adams by himself at its base? Sorry, that was Berhalter's idiotic idea that was destined to fail.

    Poch at least worked out that Adams isn't Busquets, and went with double 6s at the midfield base.
     
  7. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Yawn. How is that different than Brasil, or Croatia, or pretty much most nations, apart from Spain or England?

    Having a national team where the majority of players play abroad is commonplace. Argentina have a majority playing overseas, they don't worry about their "ecosystem." And we can mention chapter and verse of national sides, both great and ordinary where their "ecosystem" simply does not matter.

    Archer had it right:

    "Knowing the ecosystem" simply does not matter anymore. Either a coach can select a roster and set tactics and communicate properly, or he can't.


    This isn't a "uniquely American" problem.
     
  8. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didnt say it was a uniquely American problem. Also, insert fact of no national team winning the WC with a foreign coach, so there must be something to it. I also think a foreigner with experience here is acceptable.

    Also, great job cherry picking a result against Wales as an entire argument. Well done.
     
  9. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Meh, the US would first have to assemble a group of players good enough to compete for a WC before worrying about winning one.

    And if Brasil and England are good with a foreign coach, it should be good enough for our lot.

    You sure?

    And if I needed to dunk on Berhalter further, we could find more embarrassing results as well.

    But hey, you go right ahead and stan for (snicker) Berhalter.
     
  10. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If pointing out he had better results than poch is stanning for ggg, then i guess I'm guilty as charged. You got me.

    Now kindly go back to whatever hole you crawled out from.
     
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  11. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Burlington, Vermont
    Club:
    Columbus Crew

    They didn't shoot themselves in the foot. Their biggest goal was to make as much as possible with ticket sales, so they accomplished their goal with this. Results were secondary.
     
  12. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And how much mone did USSF lose by not playing in WC ‘18?
     
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  13. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Burlington, Vermont
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Do you think USSF ever thinks about the future vs immediate cash flow?
     
  14. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The biggest problem with the entire structure of the sport in this country from beginning to end, right there.
     
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  15. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FYP
     
  16. west ham sandwich

    Feb 26, 2007
    C-bus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I vote no.
    More about not wanting 2 cycles than anti-poch. Im pretty men on him. Won't cry if he is re-signed, won't cry if he isn't.
     
  17. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where is this supposed Poch decision? Was supposed to be this week. Dude is waiting until the very last minute for any European offer before settling for the US lol.
     
  18. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He must have been waiting for LeBron to make his.

    (It's Philly, BTW. @hangthadj and @kgilbert78 must be quite happy.)
     
  19. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He'll still be behind Doc and Wilt in the Sixers pantheon. And maybe the "round mound of rebound"....
     
  20. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite Guinness

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will he have the greatest run as a Sixer? Probably not.
    Will he be the greatest player to play for the Sixers? Absolutely.

    I looked up the history of the Sixers #23 jersey. Not surprisingly, it's entirely sold out at Fanatics. (Phanatics?) Anyhoo, there isn't much history there. Trey Burke from Northland HS wore it.
     
  21. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me know when LeBron scores 100 points in a game. With no 3-point shot and no OT--and 25 boards. So, no.
     
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  22. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a ridiculous standard.
     
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  23. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    Also the only proof anyone has of it happening is a stupid picture, taken like 60 years ago, of a guy holding a piece of paper. Who gives a single solitary toot.
     
  24. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, one night vs a 25 year career.
     
  25. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll just quote from Wikipedia here....

    In Philadelphia, he's the gold standard, especially as he was a local kid. Same as LeBron is for the Cavs.
     

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