Playoff Table Tie Breakers

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Father Ted, Sep 6, 2002.

  1. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    After the Metros win last night they are now the second seed according to the table on mlsnet.com. But Columbus has a better goal difference, why are the Metros seeded second over Columbus? Is the tie breaker based on the games they have played each other?
     
  2. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first tie breaker is head to head competition (win-loss record).

    Goal diff comes next.
     
  3. UpTheMetro

    UpTheMetro Member

    Jun 3, 1999
    New York
    I believe we clinch the playoffs with another win or NE loss.
     
  4. stinky

    stinky New Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    actually, in the statistics page..columbus is ahead of us b/c of the goal differential...

    seems laying back vs. dallas night with a 2 goal lead wasn't such a good idea....

    metro are -1
    crew are +1

    so the crew actually are in 1st place of the East. not that home field means anything to us....we ahve a better record on the road.
     
  5. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    http://www.mlsnet.com/about/regulations/
    From mlsnet.com, the tie breakers are in this order:

    - The highest position shall be awarded to the team with the better win/loss record in current regular season games against all other teams equal in points. (head-to-head competition)
    - If the teams are still equal in the standings, the highest position shall be awarded to the team with the greater goal difference against all other teams during the regular season. (goal differential)
    - If the teams are still equal in the standings, the highest position shall be awarded to the team scoring the greatest number of total goals against all other teams during the regular season. (total goals)
    - If the teams are still equal in the standings, the procedures described in this section shall be applied only to games played on the road by each team against all other teams during the regular season. (road 1-3)
    - If the teams are still equal in the standings, the procedures described in this section shall be applied only to games played at home by each team against all other teams during the regular season. (home 1-3)
    - If the teams are still equal in the standings, the highest position shall be awarded to the team with the fewest team disciplinary points accumulated during the regular season.
    - If the teams are still equal in the standings, the highest position in the standings shall be determined by the toss of a coin.
     
  6. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the match report, it says that the Crew are in first due to tie breakers.

    But MLSnet shows the Metros in first in the East, and second in the playoff grid.

    :confused:

    I thought the Metros were first due to having more wins?!! I'm confused now.
     
  7. stinky

    stinky New Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    so is MLS,

    http://mlsnet.com/statistics/league.html

    shows the crew ahead of the metros....which is different from their main statistics page....
     
  8. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, then I'm even more confused. What exactly is it that is putting the Metros second? Is it more losses or the goal diff?

    Sorry for being so confused. I'm way tired and just can't think right now.
     
  9. stinky

    stinky New Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    metros and crew split their 4 games against each other....

    so it goes to the 2nd tie breaker....goal differential....(GF - GA)

    crew are +1
    metros are -1

    so...the crew are ahead of metros....
     
  10. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    The Crew should be in first, but they haven't played yet till this Saturday. I think they are waiting to see what happenes when the Crew head West against San Jose.

    The week isn't finished and probably that's what MLS is waiting for. to see who will get victory in the matches involving the Fire & the Crew.
     
  12. stinky

    stinky New Member

    May 14, 2000
    Long Beach, NY
    umm...errrr....as of today...they crew and metro have played an equal amount of games... but if you want to go by MLS Weeks, then fine.
     
  13. Speedball

    Speedball Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Harrison Stadium
    No need to worry. If the Metros and Crew end up tied, MLS will hold another "special lottery" for the Eastern Division Championship. Not that it matters because we'll probably end up playing our home playoff games in Billy Walsh's backyard.
     

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