Playoff Attendance: Week 1

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by FlashMan, Sep 23, 2002.

  1. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Playoff Attendance: Round 1

    Might as well get this started.

    Maybe the title of this thread should say: "Round 1" (instead of just "Week 1) and the Mod should change it if s/he wants to.

    I imagine the Wed/Thurs games will be pretty bad. NE will get an extra day to sell tix and they are riding high and Dallas has had since Friday night for their Wed. game. Maybe there'll be a spillover from the 26,000 in SJ who'll try to make it back for Wed and the Galaxy have known as well they'd be at home on Wed. for a while too, though they never draw well during midweek.

    Expect a lot of naysayers to come in here and promote doom and gloom by the end of the week.

    Hopefully the weekend matches will have strong crowds, but despite it being playoff season, it's no guarantee. (How about another sellout in Naperville?)
     
  2. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Safe to say that the only team we can count on for decent playoffs attendance numbers will be Columbus, and they are only guranteed one playoff game. I'd say the rest of the teams are wild cards but I'd venture to say Chicago will have 13-15k range crowds and San jose will have at least over 10,000. I worry about LA, Colorado and KC....but like I said seems like the playoffs are always a wild card when it comes to attendance.
     
  3. LA-14k
    SJ-13K
    Dallas-12k
    NE-15k
     
  4. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    I am pretty sure that Chicago will sell out again. San Jose and New England will do decent. Same with Columbus. LA will really disappoint. Hopefully the LA fans will prove me wrong.
     
  5. LA Galaxy Fan

    LA Galaxy Fan Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    Tokyo
    LA-5,443
    SJ-2,321
    Dallas-4,321
    NE-5,569
     
  6. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    !3,000 on a wednesday would be sweet for the Quakes but it hasn't been the best attendance-wise for us or anyone else for that matter. Anything over 13,000 for the club at this point would be gravy.
     
  7. Eurosnob
     
  8. Mia Stud

    Mia Stud New Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Florida
    Yeah, i read the attendance article on MLSnet last night, and saw that last season the average playoff attendance was 3,100 LESS than the average regular season attendance. Could anyone explain to me how this is possible and why this happened? The regular season drew 14,900, and the playoffs 11,800...
     
  9. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Season tix aren't included with playoffs (I don't think).

    2. Very short time to promote games.
    3. Very short time to promote games.

    4. In this "very short time", they don't promote much.
     
  10. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    Playoff attendence is usually lower cause there isn't as much time for the team to promote a certain game. Hence mostly on the people that fanatically follow their team know when the playoff games are.
     
  11. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    Sorry Flashman, didn't see your post until I was done with mine. Got a little side tracked with work. :)
     
  12. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    another big reason is that half the games are midweek games... which have a historically horrible attendance avg compared to the weekends
     
  13. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No worries CityIce. I guess all screen names that end in "Man" think alike! ;)
     
  14. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    Mid-week games are more prevalent. Compare approximately 10% of MLS games in regular season being played on a weeknight vs. 12 out of a maximum of 18 (66%) during the playoffs.
     
  15. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Us Galaxy season ticket fans get up to 3 free playoff games, if we have to play a 4th at home we have to buy that.

    I think 7734 in LA.
     
  16. Preston North End

    Feb 17, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were eight midweek playoff games last season and nine weekend games.

    Anyway...

    Los Angeles vs. Kansas City: 13,080
    Dallas vs. Colorado: 9,012
    New England vs. Chicago: 11,624
    San Jose vs. Columbus: 7,657

    Average: 10,343
     
  17. dtrave

    dtrave Member

    Oct 2, 2000
    Sharon, MA
    I agree with both the "mid-week" and "short promotion time" explanations for low playoff attendance, but I think there's an additional factor. For many people, attending an MLS game is family (or local youth soccer) entertainment. Look around the stands, and that's primarily what you see. These folks are not really MLS fans - yet. They like going to games, its fun, inexpensive, yadda yadda yadda, but they are not emotionally attached to the league and the local team. Fire GM Peter Wilt says that this is the #1 challenge that MLS currently faces. Due to this lack of attachment, most "fans" simply tune out when the regular season is over. They turn their attention to the NFL, school, etc... The importance of the post-season and winning MLS Cup has simply not registered with the masses - yet. I am hopeful that this will change over time, and the attendance in the past few weeks is very encouraging ie people must have been aware of the playoff race, given the great turnouts. But until I see strong evidence otherwise (eg good numbers during the upcoming playoffs), I think it will be quite some time until the MLS postseason really means enough to people that they line up for tickets and show up in significant numbers.
     
  18. jdonnici

    jdonnici Member

    Aug 27, 2002
    Westminster, CO
    In Colorado, season ticket holders have tickets already for the first two home playoff games. After that, they're doing a "Pay As We Play" thing where you provide approval for them to use your credit card and they charge you for only the tickets to games that are actually played.

    Here's hoping we get that far! :)

    -- jeff
     
  19. Andy_B

    Andy_B Member+

    Feb 2, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Take falcon6 predictions, add them to LA Galaxy Fan's predictions, and divide by 2.

    Andy
     
  20. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wednesday's games

    at Dallas 7,456
    at San Jose 7,544
    at Los Angeles 7,666


    Thursday's game

    at New England 12,456

    That's an 8,781 Average for midweek games


    Saturday's games

    at Kansas City 9,145
    at Colorado 10,117
    at Columbus 17,776


    Sunday's game

    at Chicago 14,779

    That's 12,955 Average for weekend games

    Then the return games on Wednesday if there are any.

    at New England 15,887
    at Los Angeles 12,713
    at San Jose 11,119
    at Dallas 11,097

    That's 12,704 Average for midweek games
    That makes it an 11,480 Average for the first round.
     
  21. Poose

    Poose New Member

    Mar 17, 2001
    This is the first season that the Burn has included playoff games in their season ticket package. It will be interesting to see if that has much of an impact on attendance.
     
  22. Pyro

    Pyro Member

    Apr 18, 2000
    Fulton River District
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given the amazing last weekend, you gotta believe that:
    1) Perhaps MLS clubs are promoting important games is short time spans.
    2) Attendees know about the playoff situation.

    Has MLS ever seen such a boost on the last weekend before for pure (non-double headers/concerts/etc.) MLS games ?
     
  23. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    LA-14,174k
    SJ-10,444K
    Dallas-11,356k
    NE-18,367k

    avg. - 13,585
     
  24. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    You got to believe it!
     
  25. ax319

    ax319 New Member

    Jul 7, 2002
    I think there is a good chance we get a decent crowd here in Colorado, since our last game of the season got 25,000, that crowd seemed really into the game and i think we might see some of that crowd in Saturdays Playoff game, im guessing 15,000 for Colorado.
     

Share This Page