Players Of The Future?

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by SupaMario, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This group of u17 are cocky and undisciplined. They have been playing like this all tournament. Goalie, defense suck. Cocky forwards. The penalty attempts are all you need to read about these players. Where's the coach to reel in their egos

    3 losses and barely qualify for the world cup. This is suppose to be another talented generation.

     
  2. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They qualified with a game in hand.

    De Martis and Juan Cruz Meza (Maxi’s brother) are supposedly players with potential. I wouldn’t read too much into these games. Sub 17 is a very raw stage for players. Lucas Ocampos, for example, looked like a future superstar at that level many years ago, but he ended up having just a decent career.

    Let’s not put too much stock into these games or the kids. Around the Sub 20 level is when we start to get a clearer idea of what they might become.
     
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  3. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's also a lot of stars that never played for U17 teams
     
  4. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Mastantuono has been one of the top prospects on the planet for a minute now, but these past few weeks he has shown immense growth. Incredible personality to put the team on his shoulder every game, and he is still only 17.

    Great goal today too… hopefully he stays in River for at least two more years, but for sure the Euro clubs will try getting in his head and push him for a premature transfer







    This kid’s special..
     
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  5. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, looks like United are interested in him. That would be an awful place for him. Awful.
     
  6. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Mastantuono, Nico Paz, Soule....

    We have so many upcoming left footed ballers who like the right half space, it'll bring headache for the next coach. A good problem to have though!
     
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  7. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The youngest River Plate player ever to score against Boca. And let's be honest, that was a golazo.

    Mastantuono is not just the best young player in Argentina, he is the best player for River and Mastantuono is the best player in the entire Argentinean league. I rate Mastantuono ahead of all our other young cracks; ahead of Echeverri, Nico Paz, Soule, Garnacho, Almada or Giuliano Simeone. Franco is the the guy of the next generation.
     
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  8. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ok relax there :p. He still has a lot to fix and learn. His finishing and a bit of his football IQ needs work. Yeah he's 17, but he's hit the post several times and yesterday he clearly went for glory instead of passing to make it 3-1

    People underestimate Echeverri, but he's shown how elite he is in Argentina shirt.
    Both players are different profiles and do things differently.
     
  9. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, let’s all hope so. I mean, River did pass up on Messi when he was a kid. Talk about having egg on your face. Maybe this could be somewhat of a consolation prize, albeit a nice one.


    But I do agree with you about Franco. I’m very high on Paz but Mastantuono could be even a level above and Paz is being regarded as one of the best young talents in Italy. Totti recently came out and said that Nico can be one of the world’s best.

    But Franco needs to make his next move very carefully. Choose wisely,’kid.
     
  10. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think Franco and Nico have some similarities, but Franco is a little more forward going, explosive and seems more athletic. Both are extremely mature for their age. Its going to be interesting to see how they develop in the next 10 years - btw, our future midfield is getting crowded
     
  11. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Just looking at them, I think Franco has more of an adult frame. You can tell he hits the gym. Paz is a bit more lengthy. I believe it was Fabregas who said that Paz' size helps him because he is an imposing size. He is about 6'1 or 6'2 but he is quite elegant. He does little flicks and tricks that opens up the game. He is not scared to run at defenders either and can provide great balls through. However, I believe Mastantuono is perhaps more technically gifted.

    Nevertheless. Both have received high praise. Totti came out and said that Nico could be "One of the best in the world." And as we know about Mastantuono, the praise has been non-step.

    I also still believe in Echeverri. He's had up and down moments but we've seen what he can do when he turns it on. He is naturally gifted. He just has to get a bit stronger. A loan deal should be in the cards, at least I hope.

    I think all of us should be very optimistic. After having to deal with utter crap and mediocrity for many years, we are sitting back at the top, where we belong.

    I am still hoping for another Sub 20 title. Yet, as we have mentioned here, it could be difficult to have some of our shining stars play at the tournament since the European sides won't have to release them. :mad:
     
  12. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Good decision if it's made permanent. Rodri is coming back and they have enough squad depth and Perrone can use more game time.

     
  13. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    for those wondering. echeverri has been hitting the weights. He's more fit and stronger than the skinny kid at the u17 wc. He's bigger than fodden now. Pep is basically trimming his sports car
     
  14. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He's apparently been doing quite well for the youth team. Perhaps he can continue to grow and develop. From whatever I have seen, (granted all of these clips make players look like the second coming) he has tricks and flicks and is very dynamic. But he does seem to make stupid plays but given the age and whatnot, it is somewhat expected.



    I did a little bit of digging and apparently he has Croatian ancestry. His entire family moved with him to Turin. He has represented us a number of times at youth level and was born and raised in Argentina until he was a teenager. But he can possibly be poached down the road.
     
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  15. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Looks like Colo Barco is cooking in France. I do wonder if he should be playing in a left side of a double pivot. HIs speed and physicality is a concern at the highest level to play as a fullback, but his ball control is insane and he is tenacious as well.

    Also judging the talent that is popping up, I do feel that the 4-2-3-1 is the future for Argentina.

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  16. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Bologna has great scouts

     
  17. pregra

    pregra Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Dec 1, 2008
    Norway
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Also saw Bologna (and Ajax) linked to Argentinos left back Román Vega. Watched a few clips and he looks really good. Fast and seem to love a 1v1 going forward.
     
  18. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Milton Delgado is being linked to some bigger sides. I think he's too small to play in England. Maybe Spain, Italy and Portugal would do him good.
     
  19. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  20. soul24rage

    soul24rage Member+

    Barcelona
    Jun 13, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Excited for the national team, not just for the WC2026 but for the subsequent tournaments as well. Very very very early prediction, but could see something like this in the WC2030. Starting from 2020, the decade started incredibly well. Let's see if it ends incredibly well as well. Interesting to look back at this post in 5 years time.


    -------------------------Castro (25)

    Nico Paz (25)------Mastantuono (22)-----Soule (27)

    -------------------Enzo (29)----Barrenechea (27)

    Soler (25)—Anselmino (25)--Romero (32)—XXX

    -----------------------------XXXX
     
  21. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Very early as you mention, and we have to see how he recovers from his ACL injury, but maybe also Ruberto as an option for the CF position.

    Other players to consider for the team are Subiabre, Valentin Gomez, Roman Vega, Echeverri, Perrone, Nehuen Perez, Anibal Moreno

    However, I can’t think of any good, promising RBs or GKs either. Maybe Giay as an option for RB? Idk..
     
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  22. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    You also are not going to know who is going to pop-up. There could be players flying under the radar or some crack that is 14-15 right now we do not know about. But as mentioned by @locoxriver, the GK is kinda a concern. I mean, there are the likes of Brey, Lavagnino, Iacovich, Blázquez and etc who are on the younger side. We just have to see how they will develop. But let's be frank here, in 2017-18, how many of us had Dibu on our 23 list? He also bounced around a few places and did not do all that great until he became a back-up for Arsenal and took his chance and ran with it. The rest is history.

    And the big question will be who is going to lead this team. I do not think it will be Scaloni since it is kinda obvious he is aiming for 26 and 26 alone. There is no real rush to build for the future. I hope it will be one of his cohorts.

    If we can figure out the GK and manager situation for 2030, I think we should be fine.
     
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  23. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    U17 groups(the tournament will be played in Nov).

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    The draw for the U20s will be held tomorrow. We are seeded in the second pot. Colombia, Chile, Brasil, US, South Korea and Italy will be in pot 1. I am assuming we will not be seeded with any of our federation rivals. I could be wrong. But if that’s the case, we will get either the US, SK or the Tanos.

    Technically, we can be in a group like Italy, ourselves, Spain(FIFA allows teams from UEFA being in the same group) and Morocco.

    But nevertheless, there will be 48 teams and qualifying for the next round should actually be a breeze. Top 3 teams for the most part can progress. Once again, if we have our top players, I don’t see why we should not contend for this title. But as we know, things aren’t ever that easy for us.
    This kicks off of Sept 27.
     
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  24. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anything is possible without Mascherano :ROFLMAO:
     
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  25. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Mastantuono to PSG possibly
     

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