Players and Matches From Yesteryear

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by aerez, Sep 22, 2023.

  1. Loco

    Loco Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    May 1, 2005
    Miami
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    El Burrito was magic. He was as skilled as any great 10 of his era, but his inner demons got the best of him. The drinking and the partying took his prime away. Ortega is basically the Argentinean version of Ronaldinho.
     
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  2. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Can someone give me an analysis and synopsis on your take of the 1995 Copa America. I just want more details about that tournament, because I don't know much about it.
     
  3. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I didnt watch it at the time but I do know that Brazil scored two hand goal , againts Argentina in QF & againts Uruguay in final. You can see it on YT.

    Amazingly Brazil also scored hand goal in WC 2010.
     
  4. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta be honest as a "traitor" I still enjoy watching the highlights of USA 3-0 over Argentina. :sneaky:
     
  5. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina


    Does anyone notice how Valdano's goal in 1986 final was actually similar to ADM goal in 2022 final? it started from the back all the way to the goal in one sweeping move. Maradona two touches pass was the key moment there.
     
  6. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Our coaches and afa never did take advantage of prime Aguero, dybala, lamela, lanzini and icardi did they.
     
  7. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  8. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  9. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  10. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  11. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This aerial angle shows how difficult Messi's goal against Mexico in WC 2022. Its crazy he did that under biggest preasure... a possibility of getting knocked out at group stage.

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  12. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    On this same day — 06/24/2006



    wow, it’s been 18 years already.. crazy

    And to think this all-time goal would have never happened if the ref didn’t incorrectly invalidate Messi’s 92nd minute goal. Thank god there was no VAR! ;)
     
  13. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Also on this date. As well as Messi's birthday. 6/24 is just a great day for Argentine football.
     
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  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    As a captain, Maradona has victories over Brazil, Germany, Italy, Uruguay, England & Belgium at WC knockout stage.
     
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  15. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I wish in the late 90s, we sent better sides to the CA. It was always a mix of the first and second team players with the likes of Bati sitting out. Perhaps had they won, the pressure wouldn’t have grown for the future generations.




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    Also, it was 1997, a year before the Mundial and we fielded a second side, whereas the brazucas took a much fuller team. This could’ve helped us get ready for France 98.
     
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  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #66 Rattlehead, Jun 26, 2024
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2024
    True but at that point we just won back to back Copa in 91 & 93, so maybe the NT just didnt see Copa as very important tournament. 95 we lost due to Brazil hand goal (which they did again vs Uruguay in final).

    We didnt win Copa in 70s & 80s but the WC titles must have made the Copa feels less prestigious. Even between 1986-1990, we lost two Copa but made it to WC final again.

    I'd say the 2002 group stage exit coupled with losing 2004 final on penalties was the real begining of the curse.

    Looking at our 80s-90s players photos , they all looked like 35-40 year old, just like Cuti lol.
     
  17. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    1998 WC QF v the Netherlands.
    Don't know how we lost this one. Batigol hit the post, Ortega hit the post, der Saar fell over like a tree to get Ortega off (although Ariel should not have retaliated). Another great opportunity wasted.
     
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  18. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    1998 WC Round of 16 v England at St.Etienne. A hard earned win in which the side made heavy weather and barely utilized the man advantage for 70 minutes.
     
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  19. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Redondo would have dominate the midfield. Caniggia speed as a sub could be useful aswell, but.. oh well

    Its funny England still piss about Diego's hand while Owen blatantly dive in both 1998 & 2002 to earned those penalties.
     
  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Worth a watch.




    The ones that got away are always the ones we never forget.
     
  21. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Technically, Scaloni has helped us win 5 trophies.:D

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    De Paul looks a bit silly without his beard. No wonder he decided to keep it.:ROFLMAO:
     
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  22. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The craziest part of this pic, Dibu was third choice goalie:laugh:

    Paredes & RDP looks better with beard:devilish:


    Technically, Scaloni did won 5 trophies
    He won u20 WC as player:D
     
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  23. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Rene Houseman.


    Would have been his birthday yesterday but for his premature passing in 2018. Houseman was top scorer for Argentina at the 74 World Cup and played in 1978. He may be of English descent or German (Haussmann) but he was very much a product of the Argentine style to pass and move and to trick opponents with flashes of skill, speed and the dribble. At which he was a master of all three.

    He is associated with Huracan founded in 1908 at the time when Jorge Newbery son of an American immigrant dentist was pioneering aviation in Argentina flying balloons. He sadly like his elder brother perished in an aviation accident but the club Huracan and their crest features his balloon the Huracan which he flew to Uruguay and Brazil.

    Huracan reached the peak of their success under the late Cesar Menotti winning the domestic title and made it into the then grouped semi finals losing to eventual winners Independiente. The team was marked by a desire to play free flowing attacking football marked by individual flair to entertain one and all. The style is evident in the play of Osvaldo Ardiles who played for Huracan before his move to Tottenham. Hector Baley the last black player for the seleccion also played at the time for Huracan.

    Houseman is without doubt a legend and would be in contention for the all time seleccion group. Others in that category are Omar Corbatta and of course Angel di Maria. Sadly like Corbatta Houseman had a drinking problem from an early age which contributed to his early passing. And like Corbatta sometimes played while under the influence. Like many other great players from Messi to Cruyff to Best all the little Rene did was to kick a ball against a wall for hours honing his ball control.
     
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  24. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  25. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Right now, nothing comes to mind. Gondou is an out and out striker but he's average at best. And to be fair, I can't think of many out and out strikers that came out of Argentina that actually playing at a very high level. Icardi was more or less a product of the Canary Islands. He then went onto Barcelona's youth program then to Sampdoria and Inter.

    Fatso, perhaps? It's been a minute to be fair.

    I remember back in the day, the media and whatnot were hyping up Palermo. But he was never at that high level, no matter what the media or Bosteros said so. He also moved to Europe very late and had a freak injury at Villarreal. But he will always be remembered for that match where he missed 3 PK's in a single game.

    Then there was Cavenaghi. He had promise and I do remember the debate was Who was better, Tevez or Cavenaghi? Well, Cavenaghi derailed his career by taking money and going to Russia. He had some good years in France and retired fairly young.

    Lucho Figueroa was actually a decent striker, he did well for Central and in Mexico. Then he got a serious injury, which derailed his career. He probably would've gone to the 06 World Cup instead of Palacio.

    Diego Milito really had a great moment for us. He played behind Crespo for a time period then had to be behind Palermo in 2010 when he was one of the best forwards in the world.


    Man, just thinking back at these players...
     
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